Nukes Are Sexy :o

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  • InfinityInfinity And beyond! Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 50Members
    alpha centauri is a great strategic economy game, its really great, especially by the voice acting that comes with each building and each research and projects

    "Achademissian Provost Zakharov, for I have tasted the fruit"
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    And the most useful quote evar from ACentauri;
    Remember, genes are <i>not</i> blueprints. For example, you can't take the gene of an elephants trunk and insert into a giraffe, and get a giraff with a trunk. There <i>are</i> no genes for trunks. What you <b>can</b> do with genes, is chemistry.

    That was one of the very few things I have learned from a game that is related to Real Life.

    And if you think B&W is crap, your taste is off the scale, or your computer is crap.
    EDIT: Oh and btw, I have Generals.
    The firestorm animation is sexay-er than the nukes imo.
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Alice: Crap
    Red Alert 2: Crap
    Yuri's Revenge: I'm sure its crap, see above
    Moh: crap
    Spearhead: see above
    Ultima Online: honestly never played it. but i heard it was crap.
    Simcity4: great game, but runs like crap
    Bf1942: great game, but lags like crap
    BLACK & WHITE: you're kidding right? Steaming pile of crap.
    Earth and Beyond: haven't played them
    Harry Potter: I'm not 12, so i'm sure its crap.
    Two Towers: The other LOTR games are crap, I'm sure this one is too...
    Alpha Centuari: I have heard good things about this one but haven't played it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh good god, what the hell is wrong with you?

    Alice was sweet as, superb game. So it wasn't a shoot 'em up. Big deal, it was tripped out and I loved that.
    Red Alert 2 + Yuri's Revenge. Ok, here's the deal: Do NOT take them seriously. They were made as fun games, not serious ones. Need I remind you of the horror that was Tiberium Sun? Westwood tried serious in that and failed miserably. RA2 went "screw realism, have a giant squid". Anything wrong with that? No.
    MOH: Err, did you even PLAY this? It was a damn sweet game, and still is. Dunno what you found was bad about it...
    Ultima Online: Well I've never played it but yes, I'll agree, it does sound rather crap.
    Sim 4: Upgrade your box
    BF1942: See above
    Black and White: Now that's going too far. This game had a tremendous concept and did a very good job with it. Sure it had a few minor issues, but they didn't stop the gameplay. "Steaming pile of crap" is completly unjustified. If you're saying that because it was laggy, see above.
    Harry Potter: Well duh, it is aimed at 12 year olds. If you're saying that because it is Harry Potter it is crap then I'm not going to warrent you with an answer. There's a reason the books are number 1 bestsellers worldwide.
    TT: Havn't played it, wouldn't dismiss it so calmly.
    Alpha Centuri: quite good, you have to be into Turn Based Stratagy though and you seem not to be...

    Give me some reasoning behind your dislike for the above games and I'll respect your opinion on generals.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I like RA2 and Yuri's Revenge......

    <span style='color:red'>**WARNING**</span>

    What I am about to say may shock you. If you are faint of heart please look away now....

    I plan to get Counter-Strike-Condition Zero before C&C Generals

    **END OF WARNING**

    (And please don't call me blasphemous, unfaithful, etc)
  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    I'm sorry, I have to agree with Doom on Black&White, it was simply bullcrap. It wasn't fun to play, and it didn't run that well. I'd base my dislike on it more on the fact that it got repetitive and painful to play very quickly.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh good god, what the hell is wrong with you?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When all else fails, personal attacks and insults ensure victory!

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Alice was sweet as, superb game. So it wasn't a shoot 'em up. Big deal, it was tripped out and I loved that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That was exactly my problem, it WASN'T trippy. With levellord working on this thing and the way it was hyped, I was expecting a game that would seriously **** with my head. But it was just more mediocre stuff. Undying, now that's a game that screws with your head heh...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Red Alert 2 + Yuri's Revenge. Ok, here's the deal: Do NOT take them seriously. They were made as fun games, not serious ones. Need I remind you of the horror that was Tiberium Sun? Westwood tried serious in that and failed miserably. RA2 went "screw realism, have a giant squid". Anything wrong with that? No.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I never said it was stupid because it wasnt' realistic. How dare you accuse me of being one of those realism kiddies. :P There are plenty of other reasons why I thought RA2 was stupid.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->MOH: Err, did you even PLAY this? It was a damn sweet game, and still is. Dunno what you found was bad about it...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Played the demo, didn't like it. I'm not a realism kiddie, so it just wasn't fun to me.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sim 4: Upgrade your box<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You obviously haven't played simcity4 and know nothing about all the issues this game has. EVERYONE has horrible performance with this game, its due to bad code or whatnot. Even people w/ P4 3.06ghz + 512MB RAM + 9700 Pro's. I hope they patch it soon, cause the game really is great, and it mourns me to see a bad simcity game, especially one that's only bad due to technical flaws.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BF1942: See above<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How silly of you to make assumptions as to my system capabilities. The BF1942 demo was very very fun, and it ran very fast. Its just the way the netcode works...


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Black and White: Now that's going too far. This game had a tremendous concept and did a very good job with it. Sure it had a few minor issues, but they didn't stop the gameplay. "Steaming pile of crap" is completly unjustified. If you're saying that because it was laggy, see above.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Again you assume my system just can't handle it, an assumption that was wrong. B&W was always silky smooth. I agree it was a very "revolutionary" concept. But they forgot the most important element: It wasn't that fun. I think what made it the most not fun is that the creature AI was horrible.

    Giving the game credit: I did reinstall B&W on christmas break to try it again, and with over a year's worth of patching (hell, probably 2 years now, right?) it was better, but its a bit stupid to wait a year or two for a game to be patched to be any fun. :P


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Harry Potter: Well duh, it is aimed at 12 year olds. If you're saying that because it is Harry Potter it is crap then I'm not going to warrent you with an answer. There's a reason the books are number 1 bestsellers worldwide.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think that the books are wonderful for getting lots of children interested in reading. I think that's nothing but a good thing. But usually books and movies make horrible games. In fact, I'm having trouble thinking of any movie-based game that wasn't horrible. Besides Jurrasic Park on Sega Genesis, that pwned as a Raptor...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->TT: Havn't played it, wouldn't dismiss it so calmly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    See above

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Alpha Centuri: quite good, you have to be into Turn Based Stratagy though and you seem not to be...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I'm not much for turn based stuff. If I wanted to play turn based games I'd play em in real life™ w/ cards or those little pieces or whatever. I just don't find them to be much fun, but that is my own personal taste.



    The thing to remember here is this is all everybody's opinion. I mean you'll find people arguing why Toby Keith is better than Britney Spears, when in reality we all know Ozzy should just bite both their heads off. Its all people lobbying their opinion and what they think is "correct", but no actual facts. Except for Black & White, that game was awful. ^_^
  • Cry_HavocCry_Havoc Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12593Members
    If RA2 is crap then Generals is some sort of super mega ultimate crap.

    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    go look at

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=23003' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=10&t=23003</a>

    and find my post about BF1942 I dont feel like repeating myself

    Alice was a good game, but it came out 2 years ago, and alot since then has changed.

    EA takes good games, and releases followups that are completley undeveloped (NFS HP2) being the primary example. They rely on the fact that those popular games have a large fan base, and their initial investment into those games will be return with profit on the initial sales. They dont care about supporting the games they release, nor do they care about making them good. Look at 007: Nightfire, it took the bond geonra (spllng) and tuerned it into 'XXX' the movie, no stealth, completely liniar gameplay. NHL2003k was total crap for PC, they took out the "NHL Cards" feature which was the higlight of NHL2002 and somehow managed to make the game feel less real. They also made it "Pay for Play" if you wanted to go on-line, and took out the "PC to PC" feature.

    EA is all about the bottom $$ and if you are a true gamer (I considder myself a true gamer) you have a higher standard than the general public, if I cant uphold this standard, or at least point out that its being violated, I dont feel right about being a gamer.

    And just to adress the comments about Earth and Beyond. Once you get your charachter to levl 106 (one hundred and six) the game becomes boring and uneventful, and EA has no plans to improve the content for the higher level people... WHY? because the statistical average of player level is 40-85, so their target audiance are the mediocer players, not true gamers
  • TiioTiio Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 12012Members, Constellation
    I did some number crunching regarding the auto resource gatherers in CNC: Generals, so you CNC rats might like this.

    <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
    GLA: 20/s                              Cost: 1500 Gives Upgrades, no power req
    USA: 1500/120s (12.5/s)       Cost: 2500 Power Req: 4
    China: 5/6/8/10 / s                Cost: 675 no power req, can be promoted to earn more money, can disable buildings

    The GLA have a auto resource gatherer that costs 1500, requires no power, gives upgrades, and gives 20 supply/second (Black Market). The USA have one that requires 2500, requires 4 power, and gives 12.5/second (Suppy Dropzone). China has one that requires 675, can hack into buildings, and gives 5, 6, 8, or 10 supply/second depending on its level of veterancy (Hacker). Thus, crunching some numbers, using the USA as a base, we can figure this out.

    2500 (cost of USA)/ 1500 (cost of GLA) = 1.667 (Black Markets per Supply Dropzone)
    20/sec (GLA gain) * 1.666 (Black Markets per USA Supply Dropzone) = 33.3/sec


    2500 (cost of USA) / 675 (cost of China) = 3.709 (Hackers per Supply Dropzone)
    5/sec (China gain)* 3.709 (Hackers per USA Supply Dropzone) = 18.5/sec, 22.3/sec, 29.7/sec, 37.1/sec [depending on level of veterancy...]

    Assuming everyone invests in auto gatherers equally, the GLA will have the highest (33.3/sec per 2500), with the second being the China (18.5/sec per 2500) and finally, USA (12.5/sec per 2500). However, somethings to note: Chinese hackers can be promoted and will ramp up as follows: 22.3/sec per 2500, 29.7/sec per 2500, 37.1/sec per 2500, meaning that the Chinese Hackers will become the most effecient at Third Promotion. Also, the GLA and Chinese do not require power for their auto gain, while USA requires 4. Finally, the GLA Black Market supplies important upgrades, and the Chinese Hacker can hack into buildings.<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

    Yeah, the math is pretty sloppy, but it gets the job done. Hope this helps all you tacticians out there. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EosEos Join Date: 2002-06-08 Member: 738Members
    edited February 2003
    I just bought C&C Generals today (Seemed too good to pass by, and it was payday) I find it very fun but I have 2 problems that are wierd.

    Problem #1: Whenever I finish a mission the mission score board comes up and tells me my statistics, but the problem is; I can't go to the next mission, I only get Save Replay, Play Again?, and Exit. Is there a way to continue from there? I tried clicking Exit and then clicking the Campagin again but I have to redo the same mission. And yes, it does say I am victorious. Anyway to fix this?

    Problem#2:Whenever I play a Skirmish map I can play for about 2 minutes before my buildings and units blow up and die, causing me to be defeated. I don't know how to fix this but I want to know how too fix this, if it is a problem.

    P.S. Please, don't call me a, "n00b" I checked the options and FAQ before posting this post.

    Thank you in advance if you can help me.

    Edit: Another more serious problem: Whenever I start up C&C Generals I get this sign that says, "Technical Difficulties; Sorry, but a serious problem has occured." I don't know what the problem is but please can someone help?

    Help please.
  • DriftwoodDriftwood Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8245Members
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Eos+Feb 20 2003, 05:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Eos @ Feb 20 2003, 05:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just bought C&C Generals today (Seemed too good to pass by, and it was payday) I find it very fun but I have 2 problems that are wierd. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sounds like you are not being entirely truthful about the buying part. Those sound very much like features meant to prevent pirating the game.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    I BUILD FOR CHINA!
  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Necro-+Feb 20 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro- @ Feb 20 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I BUILD FOR CHINA! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    can i get some shoes?
  • LockNLoadedLockNLoaded Join Date: 2002-09-05 Member: 1282Members
    I am the...OVERLORD!

    man overlords sound so ownage! but damn they are slower than snails.
  • DriftwoodDriftwood Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8245Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kharaa_0z+Feb 20 2003, 06:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kharaa_0z @ Feb 20 2003, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Necro-+Feb 20 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro- @ Feb 20 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I BUILD FOR CHINA! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    can i get some shoes? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    GLA workers have the funniest lines in a RTS since the Ogres in Warcraft 2.

    "That's a lot of supplies.", "This hammer is heavy.", "Are there not better tools?" and of course the one you quoted already.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Well, for the guy who just "bought the game" check Westwood's Tech Support forum. I had issues with Emperor for a while and the TS forum helped.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Anyone else think that the Overlord was intentionally made to sound like <a href='http://www.zombo.com' target='_blank'>Zombo.com</a>?

    Think about it...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This is the Overlord. tank.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    the mobs are angry...
    <img src='http://www.vu.union.edu/~torresj/images/mobs1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
    <img src='http://www.vu.union.edu/~torresj/images/mobs2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • SmokeMastaSmokeMasta Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 430Members
    nice mobs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    before....
    <img src='http://www.vu.union.edu/~torresj/images/before.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>




    after...
    <img src='http://www.vu.union.edu/~torresj/images/after.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    KABONG
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    wow generals looks even sexier in 1280x1024. what fps do you run at in that res?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Got a small Comanche collection here :P
  • saint0zsaint0z Join Date: 2002-10-16 Member: 1505Members, Constellation
    heh actually im running in 1280x960

    and i run smooth as butta, cept when im looking at those mobs and really heavy scenes, im happy with my rigs performance
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    edited February 2003
    im running 1600x1200 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> and it also lags when im looking at a heavy scene.
    <a href='http://www.cncbunker.com' target='_blank'>cncsector</a> now got 27 maps
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    Mobs own my system, I'm considering turning my anti-aliasing down. I run an Athlon Xp 1800 with a Winfast Geforce 4 ti4200 and 256 of Kingmax DDR ram and my system hurts when those mobs run in. I do have a few settings turned up so I might overclock my vid card and proc slightly, I just put a volcano 7 on my athlon so it should be able to handle a bit of speeding up <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    And that was a nice fuel-air strike <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--LockNLoaded+Feb 20 2003, 09:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (LockNLoaded @ Feb 20 2003, 09:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am the...OVERLORD!

    man overlords sound so ownage! but damn they are slower than snails. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If they weren't, it would be too easy to run over everything(except buildings) in your path.
    Dont underestimate the bunker mode on the overlord, 5 Tank Hunters makes quite a difference!
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    I got Generals a few days ago.

    Is there any way to turn up the game speed? it's freakin <b>slow.</b> It's not a framerate issue, it's just that the game ... runs ... so ... mind ... thrashingly ... slow!

    Waiting 5 seconds for a tank shell to fly through the air... sucks.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    this was only on page 8, not in the pre-release archives or something... only from a week or two ago ..
  • olisisolisis Join Date: 2003-02-01 Member: 12944Members
    CnC: Generals is great fun, my only beef with it was it was too short.
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