This Is Why

Trevelyan_006Trevelyan_006 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3876Banned
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<div class="IPBDescription">Marine teching endgame happens</div> wanna know why? because think of it this way... your a alien and have 3 hives anda lone marine escapse behind your lines... 19/20, he will die on his way out, 4/5 he will get picked up by a alien going to kill CC and a really small chance that he can set up a seige base with CC long enough to lock down a hive and THEN manage to kill the level 3 aliens coming from dead marine start....

sounds like a insanely rare comeback right?

well with marines...

They have level 2 armor and weapons, and maybe jetpack and HMG... if they attacked now... they could lose to those aliens defending, where they will counter attack when marines are trying to save up for more weapons and stuff. Another thing... when attacking, a smart skulk will know that if the marines are there, they are NOT at another hive... and will send a rush to take down a smallish turret farm at the hive, and are able to turn the tables (happens sometimes)


thing is... if the marines dont tech up... the level 1 aliens have many possibilities to move in a new direction and it is easier for the marines to sit back and tech up to HA give everyone that and a welder and HMG... this is the marines equivalint to the onos rush... dont blame them because it takes longer to do so then aliens!!!
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  • TerrTerr Arthritic Skulk Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7486Members
    I'm... not... quite sure what you're trying to say here.
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    he says:
    If marines just lost all hives and onos rush is expected soon, dont use all your res ASAP to rush back to one hive. Instead wait short time before the onos come, then give out all the stuff to kill (DEFEND !!) the onos rush and make a counter rush while aliens respawn.
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  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    *shrug* I guess, except that if they've got Onos they've probably already taken every res point on the map and WoL'd all the exits to the marine base. This kind of thing works on the initial skulk rush rather than the endgame rush.
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  • dearthdearth Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12569Members
    skorpion, this is usually the end for rines on a regular pub, but I have seen rines come out of this situ w/ ha,hmg,gl + constant welding. granted, it's hard to do, but tech 3 marines are freakish if deployed as an efficient team (of at least four or five, depending on the relative team sizes) and kept healthy+ammo'd up+welded by non-heavy marines who do nothing but weld and die. as long as the marines have at least one node in their clusterfarq respawn point + a few good men, the marines have something to work with.

    granted, this tac is risky at best, but it can be done. whoo, tech 3!
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  • SemperFi1SemperFi1 Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13559Members
    Level 3 marines cut through anything. Ive actually seen fades run from ha/hmg....including me.
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  • VimstlVimstl Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10145Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--dearth+Feb 20 2003, 09:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dearth @ Feb 20 2003, 09:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> tech 3 marines are freakish if deployed as an efficient team (of at least four or five, depending on the relative team sizes) and kept healthy+ammo'd up+welded by non-heavy marines who do nothing but weld and die. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wholeheartedly agree - but this presupposes a level of teamwork and cooperation that, had the marines exhibited it from the beginning, they would not be in this three alien hive predicament. However, I have seen games as you describe, in which a group of independant (or brain dead) marines see the light and coalesce into a team at the eleventh hour, thus saving the day. Hope springs eternal. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Trevelyan_006Trevelyan_006 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3876Banned
    no no no... while this is a STRAT you think i am saying (not the best but something to try <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    I am saying: Marines take longer to end the game (ie kill last hive/alien) then aliens because if they DONT tech, the aliens still have a chance to comeback and take a hive or something...


    Aliens just throw up a hive and evolve to onos... something that takes a fraction of the time... hell half the games i played are over before the third goes up!
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