Crouch & Slash

Error404

<div class="IPBDescription">More effective for Fade?</div> I find slashing while crouching to be more effective against Marines, especially HA. Could be something to do with hitboxes? or just psychological?

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SoulSkorpion

I don't think it would make much difference.

It might possibly help if you're circling them rapidly, they're aiming slightly up, and you duck so that they keep turning and miss you. I did that once or twice in TFC as a spy vs hgws <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

Frankenstein

When i can get within range for a melee attack with a fade, the marine is screwed so fast that the way you slash<i> doesnt </i>matter (even with Ha).

Something I like about skulks(early in the game), however is <i>jumping and attacking</i>(not leap) to kill marines in 1 hit. Making a transition to walls when someone is shooting at you makes it hard to attack because its hard to keep track of what direction your guy is pointing, and where the marine is. Ive killed up to 5 marines with a skulk before coming around a corner and "jumping" the first two, and going directly towards the other 3.
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Trevelyan_006

wow... I havent even seen a lone HA in this game sence the last version... clan servers are so cool! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

DaStompa

<!--QuoteBegin--Frankenstein+Feb 20 2003, 01:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frankenstein @ Feb 20 2003, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i can get within range for a melee attack with a fade, the marine is screwed so fast that the way you slash<i> doesnt </i>matter (even with Ha).

Something I like about skulks(early in the game), however is <i>jumping and attacking</i>(not leap) to kill marines in 1 hit. Making a transition to walls when someone is shooting at you makes it hard to attack because its hard to keep track of what direction your guy is pointing, and where the marine is. Ive killed up to 5 marines with a skulk before coming around a corner and "jumping" the first two, and going directly towards the other 3.
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I agree with ya

I once wiped out 7 (count em, seven) marines at once in mess hall, using the desk as cover , hopping over and cutting one down, the last one i crushed with the door as he tried to escape my wrath <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Church

wow. What crappy marines.

But then, I think nancy is one of the worst marine maps. I HATE that place.

SoulSkorpion

<!--QuoteBegin--DaStompa+Feb 21 2003, 09:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaStompa @ Feb 21 2003, 09:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Frankenstein+Feb 20 2003, 01:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frankenstein @ Feb 20 2003, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When i can get within range for a melee attack with a fade, the marine is screwed so fast that the way you slash<i> doesnt </i>matter (even with Ha).

Something I like about skulks(early in the game), however is <i>jumping and attacking</i>(not leap) to kill marines in 1 hit.  Making a transition to walls when someone is shooting at you makes it hard to attack because its hard to keep track of what direction your guy is pointing, and where the marine is.  Ive killed up to 5 marines with a skulk before coming around a corner and "jumping" the first two, and going directly towards the other 3.
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I agree with ya

I once wiped out 7 (count em, seven) marines at once in mess hall, using the desk as cover , hopping over and cutting one down, the last one i crushed with the door as he tried to escape my wrath <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
LA or HA?

The door is a nice touch <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

DaStompa

<!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Feb 20 2003, 11:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Feb 20 2003, 11:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> LA or HA?

The door is a nice touch <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
LA, of course, HA would be insanity, my record stands at 3HA/hmgs at once (noobs) and a 4th soon after that (straggler) then capped by some LA with a pistol <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

celerity freaking rocks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

SuperBOB

I find skulking Versus ha extremely hard, the best way to take them down is with good teamplay. Get a couple of skulks to dance around the HA, get up close try to survive aslong as possible, then the rest of the team rushes after say 10 seconds, hopefully the HA will have to reload before the last skulk dies and you can start inflicting the damage.

Brain_Cleaner

<!--QuoteBegin--SuperBOB+Feb 21 2003, 10:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperBOB @ Feb 21 2003, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I find skulking Versus ha extremely hard, the best way to take them down is with good teamplay. Get a couple of skulks to dance around the HA, get up close try to survive aslong as possible, then the rest of the team rushes after say 10 seconds, hopefully the HA will have to reload before the last skulk dies and you can start inflicting the damage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
the problem is that skulks on pub. server don't run in packs <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->


i AM gonna kill you next time we play Bob! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

Paq

<!--QuoteBegin--|ds|meatshield+Feb 20 2003, 08:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|ds|meatshield @ Feb 20 2003, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> wow.  What crappy marines.

But then, I think nancy is one of the worst marine maps.  I HATE that place. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mess hall sucks, but it is not the worst marine map....
Base is really easy to defend (only one entrance and long hallway) and you can go to a every hive through vents.
So jp/hmg marines are really powerfull in that map....maybe even too powerfull <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

SuperBOB

Mess hall is precisely why nancy is easy for marines....

Take mess hall early since its near marine base with mines and sentry's and you have easy access to all 3 hives. Its a nice choke point and can prevent less skilled skulks from getting to points your marines are actually attacking. Also with the amount of vents covering from hive to hive (especially unnamed) jetpacks can really dominate this map.