"When its done" is such a weak answer used by people such as Ion Storm and Wolfpack that only irritates people.
There is no harm in giving a date, just say a release that is 3 times longer than you think it will take you to complete the project, that way you will most likely never miss your deadline and all your fanbase has a release date so theyre happy.
I don't care when it comes out, I just hope it gets out before Uncle Sam calls me up to go spend a year vacationing in Iraq <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
BESIDES, I don't want them to make a thousand promises they can't deliver, AKA TF2, Duke Nukem III, etc.
I'm going to make a wild guess and say that it's going to be released before the end of this year.
[it sounded like more than a safe guess, but in hindsight... i hope i didn't jinx it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->]
If you figure the worst likely case is that 1.1 = 2x as complex to fix up as 1.04, and 1.04 took around a month and a half to balance and add stuff, 1.1 would be released in May sometime (really bad case, and assumes that playtesting starts sometime shortly). However, I'm pretty sure Flayra learned how easy it is to get feature-happy with 1.04, and I don't think it will be nearly that bad. On the flip side, this is Flayra's baby and he's gonna be picky about it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Don't expect it soon, but I seriosly doubt it'll become vaporware, so "when it's done" does mean that it will get done.
Still, being eager about it now is like making an x-mas wishlist in August.
Grampsmode? As in "No, Florence, it was in 1957, I distinctly remember because it was the year we had the Austin Partner. The green one. No the blue one was much later. And you got so ill you barfed out the window right down in the hotel dock pond. It wasn't 1958 because we went to your uncles funeral that summer"?
<!--QuoteBegin--RickyGervais+Feb 24 2003, 08:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RickyGervais @ Feb 24 2003, 08:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "When its done" is such a weak answer used by people such as Ion Storm and Wolfpack that only irritates people. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, it's John Carmack that started that whole "it will done when it's done' thing. And it has been used quite often since then. It doesn;t bother me when ppl use it who are working on software on their own time but when it's used by a multi million company.. THAT bothers me.. Come on, hire yourself some better Project Managers and do a good risk analysis for crying out loud.. sigh!
<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Feb 24 2003, 08:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Feb 24 2003, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To go along with Fam, here's my take on that age old question with a classic MonsE strip...
<a href='http://www.stripcreator.com/view.php?author=MonsE&ID=91664' target='_blank'>When is NS 1.1 coming out?</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey Monse when NS 1.1 Is coming out? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (J/K)
NarfwakJoin Date: 2002-11-02Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
<!--QuoteBegin--voogru+Feb 23 2003, 06:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Feb 23 2003, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It will be out before we all die.
Thats a promise. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not neccesserily true. Someone in the community just might die before the game gets released. Let's hope not though, 'cause that would really suck.
- Hey Flay! When's NS 1.1 gonna be released? - When it's not done! - So, I can have a copy now?! - Sure sucker, here ya go. *later* - My system crashes every time I run NS, why?! - Because it's not done.
Take your time guys, the version I got right now is more than I deserve.
<!--QuoteBegin--Immacolata+Feb 24 2003, 07:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Immacolata @ Feb 24 2003, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Grampsmode? As in "No, Florence, it was in 1957, I distinctly remember because it was the year we had the Austin Partner. The green one. No the blue one was much later. And you got so ill you barfed out the window right down in the hotel dock pond. It wasn't 1958 because we went to your uncles funeral that summer"? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Pretty much, yes <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Narfwak+Feb 24 2003, 08:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Feb 24 2003, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--voogru+Feb 23 2003, 06:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (voogru @ Feb 23 2003, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It will be out before we all die.
Thats a promise. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not neccesserily true. Someone in the community just might die before the game gets released. Let's hope not though, 'cause that would really suck.
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If SOMEONE dies, it's not the same as "all" dieing. So, unless the world is destroyed taking out every single NS player in the world, it will be out before "we all die".
<!--QuoteBegin--Guspaz+Feb 24 2003, 04:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Guspaz @ Feb 24 2003, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If SOMEONE dies, it's not the same as "all" dieing. So, unless the world is destroyed taking out every single NS player in the world, it will be out before "we all die". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And, in that case--CONSIDERING YOU ARE DEAD--would you really care that NS didn't ever get released?
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Back to the topic at hand, I believe more of an answer can be given than "when it's done" without betraying any sort of reluctance to give a release date. Do you guys have a plan? Meaning, do you know what you have left to do? Maybe you could tell us that and update us as things go along so we can kind of tell when it gets close.
Unless your plan is:
Code > Test > Release
Then we're just as well off with "when it's done".
this is a little Jedi Mind Trick i play on myself, cuz i don't wanna bug the NS team who have blessed us with such a super duper game. use either 1 or 2.
1) 1.0 is FINAL, there is no other versions coming out. it's cool! 2) 1.1 is going to be released January 4th 2009. hard date, for sure.
That way, 1, you'll be HELLA surprised when 1.1 comes out, or 2, you'll be gleefully overjoyed when NS 1.1 DOES come out, early.
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<a href='http://www.stripcreator.com/view.php?author=MonsE&ID=91664' target='_blank'>When is NS 1.1 coming out?</a>
"When its done" is such a weak answer used by people such as Ion Storm and Wolfpack that only irritates people.
There is no harm in giving a date, just say a release that is 3 times longer than you think it will take you to complete the project, that way you will most likely never miss your deadline and all your fanbase has a release date so theyre happy.
BESIDES, I don't want them to make a thousand promises they can't deliver, AKA TF2, Duke Nukem III, etc.
[it sounded like more than a safe guess, but in hindsight... i hope i didn't jinx it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->]
Still, being eager about it now is like making an x-mas wishlist in August.
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, it's John Carmack that started that whole "it will done when it's done' thing. And it has been used quite often since then. It doesn;t bother me when ppl use it who are working on software on their own time but when it's used by a multi million company.. THAT bothers me.. Come on, hire yourself some better Project Managers and do a good risk analysis for crying out loud.. sigh!
<a href='http://www.stripcreator.com/view.php?author=MonsE&ID=91664' target='_blank'>When is NS 1.1 coming out?</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey Monse when NS 1.1 Is coming out? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (J/K)
Thats a promise. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not neccesserily true. Someone in the community just might die before the game gets released. Let's hope not though, 'cause that would really suck.
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
- Hey Flay! When's NS 1.1 gonna be released?
- When it's not done!
- So, I can have a copy now?!
- Sure sucker, here ya go.
*later*
- My system crashes every time I run NS, why?!
- Because it's not done.
Take your time guys, the version I got right now is more than I deserve.
GSH
Pretty much, yes <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thats a promise. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not neccesserily true. Someone in the community just might die before the game gets released. Let's hope not though, 'cause that would really suck.
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If SOMEONE dies, it's not the same as "all" dieing. So, unless the world is destroyed taking out every single NS player in the world, it will be out before "we all die".
And, in that case--CONSIDERING YOU ARE DEAD--would you really care that NS didn't ever get released?
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Back to the topic at hand, I believe more of an answer can be given than "when it's done" without betraying any sort of reluctance to give a release date. Do you guys have a plan? Meaning, do you know what you have left to do? Maybe you could tell us that and update us as things go along so we can kind of tell when it gets close.
Unless your plan is:
Code > Test > Release
Then we're just as well off with "when it's done".
--Frahg
1) 1.0 is FINAL, there is no other versions coming out. it's cool!
2) 1.1 is going to be released January 4th 2009. hard date, for sure.
That way, 1, you'll be HELLA surprised when 1.1 comes out, or 2, you'll be gleefully overjoyed when NS 1.1 DOES come out, early.