Absolute Funniest Skulk Rush
SoBe_Dragon
Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
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why do we have the same avatar? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Zergling, use: playdemo "demo.dem" to watch the demo. "Stopdemo" to stop it.
Playdemo "demoname"
Or......Get geekplay and use that.
/edit NANO SECOND ****!!!@!#! ^^^ <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Thats what happens when the comm listens for hives exploit instead of caring for the own team.
These aliens come into my ship, the infest it....you would think that the COMMANDER of the ship would know exactly what part of his base is infested with aliens. Exploit...rofl who told you that one?
We have the same avatar cause you copied me =)
/sigh i exploit again...thats pretty pathetic that now even listening for the heartbeat of a hive is exploiting....whatever. What is next when it comes to exploits? You changed your mouse sensitivity from default! you're exploiting...waaaa
It was never intended for you to know the location of the alien hive by listening for it. It will be addressed in the future.
No matter the explination or rationality - it was never ment to be in NS, so once Flayra figures out how to fix it, its gone.
/me shrugs
I'm a n00b and its still easy as hell to figure where the aliens are spawning from
the fact thats theres only 3 possible spots help <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I mean seriously its pretty obvious in certain maps if they keep showingup at yer base while running from a certain direction, etc
Thats what happens when the comm listens for hives exploit instead of caring for the own team. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Things are getting pretty pathetic these days. First we have someone denouncing all scripts, then we get all models and sounds with consistency check, then we have some guy who says custom crosshairs is cheating, and now listening to the hive and skulk footsteps is "lame". Lovely direction we're going.
Iv had a few games like that.
At the end of one game we managed to get building in a vent, unfortunatly there wasent quite enough space for spawning safely.
Iv had a few games like that.
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unstuck plugin could have saved your day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
RTFM... The TSA are not the original occupiers of the areas the maps are based in. They arrive later to clear out the infestation rather like the USCM Marines do in the James Cameron film 'Aliens'. Therefor they do not know what awaits them once they get there...
Hive starts at full health, it only beats when healing.
Prosp
It's good to see that i'm not the only one that can see these things happening. It feels so helpless when you can watch something as wonderful as NS take the road to Cstrike... Oh well, it happens with most awsome games....WC3 and JK2, just to name 2 =)
I hope peen can see this dem on here...he wanted me to post it
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i been sayin that since people first called me an exploiter for turning models off...I was beginning to think I was the only one out there that could seperate customization from cheating...
the muzzle flash is there for a reason.
Prosp
"How can a rush be funny?".
But i downloaded it anyway and watched it.
And to be 100% honest, it DID make me laugh.
I wish I knew more NS Server where people actually used
the voice comm as much as they did in that .dem.
I'm a n00b and its still easy as hell to figure where the aliens are spawning from
the fact thats theres only 3 possible spots help <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I mean seriously its pretty obvious in certain maps if they keep showingup at yer base while running from a certain direction, etc <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
In many instances, it doesn't make a difference. The cases where it does:
1) Marine team makes a massive relocation/rush effort within the first 30 seconds of the game, before they could have known by any other means where the hive was.
Example: relocating to Cargo on ns_nothing. The comm is able to know within a few seconds of getting in the chair where the aliens are, and this immediately tells him how effective a relocation is going to be. If he hears a heartbeat at cargo, he knows to build in his base. If he hears a heartbeat at viaduct, he sends maybe half his force to cargo and holds half in reserve. If he hears it at silo, he sends his entire team to cargo to set up, knowing that he'll beat the aliens there by a couple of seconds. This is all based on information that he wasn't supposed to have.
2) Alien team makes a strong effort to distribute their presence all over the map.
Example: ns_eclipse. The alien team can coordinate their efforts and make sure that when they hit the base, they come in through both doors at once. If this tactic is used effectively, the marine team should have no idea where the aliens are spawning. Even if it's not used and the aliens all pour in from the left door, the marines still shouldn't know whether they came from Computer Core or Maintenance.
Once an observatory is up, it's a moot point, because the commander can probably figure it out by watching the blips, but that 30 seconds of uncertainty helps prevent excessively cheesy rush/relocation tactics.
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- Bug fixes and exploit fixes (bunny-hopping, ex_ variables, r_draw variables, more)
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Hopefully this'll coincide with the fixing of the sprite bug, and EVERYONE will be happy! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Wonder if he'll try to do anything about the commander hearing thing - seems like a client-side change might be the place to do that.
I'm a n00b and its still easy as hell to figure where the aliens are spawning from
the fact thats theres only 3 possible spots help <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I mean seriously its pretty obvious in certain maps if they keep showingup at yer base while running from a certain direction, etc <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In many instances, it doesn't make a difference. The cases where it does:
1) Marine team makes a massive relocation/rush effort within the first 30 seconds of the game, before they could have known by any other means where the hive was.
Example: relocating to Cargo on ns_nothing. The comm is able to know within a few seconds of getting in the chair where the aliens are, and this immediately tells him how effective a relocation is going to be. If he hears a heartbeat at cargo, he knows to build in his base. If he hears a heartbeat at viaduct, he sends maybe half his force to cargo and holds half in reserve. If he hears it at silo, he sends his entire team to cargo to set up, knowing that he'll beat the aliens there by a couple of seconds. This is all based on information that he wasn't supposed to have.
2) Alien team makes a strong effort to distribute their presence all over the map.
Example: ns_eclipse. The alien team can coordinate their efforts and make sure that when they hit the base, they come in through both doors at once. If this tactic is used effectively, the marine team should have no idea where the aliens are spawning. Even if it's not used and the aliens all pour in from the left door, the marines still shouldn't know whether they came from Computer Core or Maintenance.
Once an observatory is up, it's a moot point, because the commander can probably figure it out by watching the blips, but that 30 seconds of uncertainty helps prevent excessively cheesy rush/relocation tactics. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, but the aliens ALWAYS KNOW where the marines are making a rush possible.
Maby the marines should get a 1min head start....
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I agree, it does seem a bit off that the marines have a fixed spawn location while the aliens get one randomly.
However, I think this is compensated for by the fact that the marines have a couple of big early-game defensive advantages over the aliens:
1) They start the game with ranged weapons, which are far superior for defense, especially if they have a chance to establish defensive positions.
2) They start the game with enough resources to begin building immediately.
The marines in fact already have a pretty big head start in this respect; in fact, I'd say more than a minute's worth, since it's more than about a minute before the alien gorge can even plant one resource tower, and the aliens only start with one spawn location, with no ability to build more. In that time the marines can easily have two resource towers (assuming they're able to defend them), several spawn portals, and be well on their way to teching to big weapons.
Also why do you think Warcraft 3 sucks? I admit I got it for UMS and the world editor. IS regular play like out of hand? Something to do with Huntress Rush being the flavor of the month?
If your marines get beat by a skulk rush its time to work on your aim.