Ruhamah

M4j0R_F4D3ll4M4j0R_F4D3ll4 Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14417Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Lama killer, or lama himself</div> Ok, I was going though some of the post here and lord behold I came accost "Ruhamah great lama WONID database" from his FA sever.

I must warn you all that this is nothing more then the WONID’s of a few true lamas and many people who he just didn't like for some perverted reason.

First off this guy, I’m sorry to say is not mentally stable. He runs a "Christian" sever in Firearms a game were the whole intent is to kill people. He preached god, Christ and his religion not only in his sever but also on the FA forums, if you enter his sever with something like 666 in your name (there are clans with it) it bans you and adds you to the list, if you have other clans he doesn't like for odd religious reasons (not that I’m against religion I think it has no place in internet games and to dictate who gets banned) such clans as 14/88, 666 14/W-, JCC and sever others, also people with "satin" in there name or even some one with the name Jesus, are added to this list simply for his religious beliefs, there are true lamer on his list from clans which do rage, but there is also people who did nothing worth of a ban. I implore to the admins of NS severs, to not take what he says with out any true evidence (when you see it you will laugh at him) So don’t ban every one on his list, for 2 reasons 1: it's not even this mod, and 2: 3/4 of the people there did nothing worthy of a ban.

I thank you for your time and hope you take this into consideration if you have any questions about his wrong doings, I have lots of logs, ect of all his foolish acts that diminish all his standing email me at Major@fardella.tk or Operivy@hotmail.com for MSN

Comments

  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i just used his list for the myg0t, 14/88, etc bans because those are ragers.

    his "true llamas" sections i left out because of these posts...this isn't the first one...i have good admins that can deal with llamas when they come around.

    thnx for your post, but i'm not sure how this isn't going to turn into a flame war. Lets see how civilized Roo can respond....

    /me puts on body armor
  • M4j0R_F4D3ll4M4j0R_F4D3ll4 Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14417Members
    14/88 is far streched, i started that clan in FA along time ago, Ruhm have some kind of vendeta against them. I since left the clan and it whent down hill. SO be it there are still some good members, i would suggest not baning 14/88 unless they do somthing in your sever, or you have a good screenshot of them.

    Thank you
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    its "Server" Damn you!
  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--M4j0R F4D3ll4+Mar 12 2003, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (M4j0R F4D3ll4 @ Mar 12 2003, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> First off this guy, I’m sorry to say is not mentally stable. He runs a "Christian" sever in Firearms a game were the whole intent is to kill people. He preached god, Christ and his religion not only in his sever but also on the FA forums, if you enter his sever with something like 666 in your name (there are clans with it) it bans you and adds you to the list, if you have other clans he doesn't like for odd religious reasons (not that I’m against religion I think it has no place in internet games and to dictate who gets banned) such clans as 14/88, 666 14/W-, JCC and sever others, also people with "satin" in there name or even some one with the name Jesus, are added to this list simply for his religious beliefs, there are true lamer on his list from clans which do rage, but there is also people who did nothing worth of a ban. I implore to the admins of NS severs, to not take what he says with out any true evidence (when you see it you will laugh at him) So don’t ban every one on his list, for 2 reasons 1: it's not even this mod, and 2: 3/4 of the people there did nothing worthy of a ban. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm sorry, but you're really not helping your case by calling someone mentally unstable because they run a Christian clan.

    He was wrong to post people like that as llamas, agreed, but don't try take on server admins for their beliefs. There are far more servers out there that disallow names that contain 666, satan, or Jesus in them than you know. Get used to it, it's his server, don't bash him for doing what he wants on his server. Go play somewhere else.

    <i>Pebbs</i>

    PS: If you didn't get it, this was a flame.
  • RazorClawRazorClaw Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7413Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--M4j0R F4D3ll4+Mar 12 2003, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (M4j0R F4D3ll4 @ Mar 12 2003, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> First off this guy, I’m sorry to say is not mentally stable. He runs a "Christian" sever in Firearms a game were the whole intent is to kill people. He preached god, Christ and his religion not only in his sever but also on the FA forums <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This part says it all, you just chose to bring this up cause despite what you said you just don't like christians.

    Oh well I guess one might just get used to the fact that in order to be popular you must hate or ridicule christian beliefs and values and also hate Israel.

    Nobody forces you to use his ban list nor does anyone force you to play on his server, I guess some more or less "innocent" people get banned on his server but I bet the majority of people that join guilds which have names related to satanism or other "hate" groups/organizations have some "mental" problem. (grief players)

    You don't join terrorist organizations unless you hate Israel/US/the west in general (and like to kill innocent defenceless civilians), nor do you join guilds such as those unless you're a jerk or just plain ignorant of what they stand for.
  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    Like CJM said, this can only go downhill.

    Lock request, oh Board Administrator?
  • M4j0R_F4D3ll4M4j0R_F4D3ll4 Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14417Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RazorClaw+Mar 12 2003, 05:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RazorClaw @ Mar 12 2003, 05:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--M4j0R F4D3ll4+Mar 12 2003, 01:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (M4j0R F4D3ll4 @ Mar 12 2003, 01:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> First off this guy, I’m sorry to say is not mentally stable. He runs a "Christian" sever in Firearms a game were the whole intent is to kill people. He preached god, Christ and his religion not only in his sever but also on the FA forums <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This part says it all, you just chose to bring this up cause despite what you said you just don't like christians.

    Oh well I guess one might just get used to the fact that in order to be popular you must hate or ridicule christian beliefs and values and also hate Israel.

    Nobody forces you to use his ban list nor does anyone force you to play on his server, I guess some more or less "innocent" people get banned on his server but I bet the majority of people that join guilds which have names related to satanism or other "hate" groups/organizations have some "mental" problem. (grief players)

    You don't join terrorist organizations unless you hate Israel/US/the west in general (and like to kill innocent defenceless civilians), nor do you join guilds such as those unless you're a jerk or just plain ignorant of what they stand for. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol, what are you off about?


    I stated that i dont belive that Religion has any place in a Internet game, and i dont belive it should dictate who is banned, more so when it is for religious reasons. Dont get me not agreeing with his ruleings and me hateing religion and israel and joining a terrorist group mixed up, i dont see how you do.

    I was just saying that he doesn't tell you what they are banned for he sais "random lama acts" that means they said "god darnit" or "omg" in his sever. I just noticed the list and since i have a extensive history with him in FA dicided to warn you about his so called "lamas"

    I dont see were you take what i said to me hateing Christian belifes and Israel?
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    edited March 2003
    Pebbs takes insults on Christian clans personally. He's got one in his past. I think ruhamuh (or whatever) isn't mentally unstable. Just a "religion extremist".
  • M4j0R_F4D3ll4M4j0R_F4D3ll4 Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14417Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Mar 12 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Mar 12 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pebbs takes insults on Christian clans personally. He's got one in his past. I think ruhamuh (or whatever) isn't mentally unstable. Just a "religion extremist". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So be it, but he still needs to read what i say befour going off on it and posting somthing that makes no sence.
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
  • Pebbles-TPFPebbles-TPF Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8237Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--M4j0R F4D3ll4+Mar 12 2003, 11:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (M4j0R F4D3ll4 @ Mar 12 2003, 11:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Mar 12 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Mar 12 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pebbs takes insults on Christian clans personally. He's got one in his past. I think ruhamuh (or whatever) isn't mentally unstable. Just a "religion extremist". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So be it, but he still needs to read what i say befour going off on it and posting somthing that makes no sence. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you're quoting the wrong person.

    Learn to read.

    And yes, I do take offense to views that are easily misconstrued as being anti-Christian.

    Also, what gives you the right to disdain people who like to bring their religion into their lives? I think you need to sit down and think before you flame others about running religious servers.

    As I said before, go play somewhere else.

    <i>Pebbs</i>

    PS: Would an admin be so kind as to lock/delete this thread?
  • M4j0R_F4D3ll4M4j0R_F4D3ll4 Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14417Members
    lol, you dont get the point do you.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Religion and video games arent mutually exclusive =/

    Also, Yes, its possible to play FA and believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ.

    However, His banlist is based on the fact that he's trying to keep people who glory in heresy and blashphemy from playing on his server. There's nothing wrong with that, his server.

    Yes, I realize your trying to call him a religious nut for doing so, and that most of people didn't do anythign wrong, but, lets leave that up to the server who decides to use the banlist.

    Also, Its probably best to avoid any circumstances in which you would, how to say this...offend any religions. It can only lead downhill from there, and destroys any credibility and any case your trying to build.

    However, i think were getting off topic. Lets try and end this relatively soon <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CortCort Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7536Members
    edited March 2003
    Dont make it this thread out to be something it isnt. Fardella makes a pretty good point about Ruhamuh (whos a nut), hes not trying to bash christians in general. The only thing that list is good for is the myg0t ids. The other half are just slipknot fans and such.

    Hey fardella <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RoobubbaRoobubba Who you gonna call? Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11930Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--cracker jackmac+Mar 12 2003, 02:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cracker jackmac @ Mar 12 2003, 02:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    thnx for your post, but i'm not sure how this isn't going to turn into a flame war. Lets see how civilized Roo can respond....

    /me puts on body armor <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol crack <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    I was actually going to respond by saying that it's his server and he can do what he likes on it. As for the rest of us, please give admins the respect they deserve - they will ban who they see fit based on the evidence they see, it's up to them whether they edit these lists (I know I have and so have almost all the others as far as I'm aware...). If you can't trust admins to admin properly, set your own server up but TBH your tone was more than a little "gripesque" at the rest of us, whether that was your intent or not.

    Besides, it does sound like you're just anti-Christian. You should get out more.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    /me gives Crack his broken armo<i>u</i>r back
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Mar 13 2003, 02:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Mar 13 2003, 02:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think ruhamuh (or whatever) isn't mentally unstable. Just a "religion extremist". <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which is basically the same. Any kind of extremism, being religious, environmental, economical - anything belief in extremes is unhealthy for your mental state. And any kind of Banlist should be - excuse me for the term - religiously administered but for sake of not banning people just because you can. I don't believe you have a right to behave just as you like when you open your door to guests. And banning people for having DIGITS in their names shouldn't be an acceptable reason for anyone.
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Roobubba+Mar 13 2003, 03:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ Mar 13 2003, 03:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    /me gives Crack his broken armo<i>u</i>r back <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i suck at spelling oh well.

    thnx.
  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cort+Mar 13 2003, 02:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cort @ Mar 13 2003, 02:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The other half are just slipknot fans and such.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hey! I like Slipknot!

    *flame flame*, *flammity flame*

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    M4j0R F4D3ll4 doesn't agree with ruhamuh's ban criteria. His concern is that others are using Ruh's ban list without knowing the "violations" that put many players on the black list. A valid concern, although expressed rather poorly (the insults against Rhu's person and beliefs were inappropriate). Concern has been voiced, end of thread.

    Major "elite", if you want better categorization and documentation in Rhu's ban list, take it up with him. We can't change it.
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Verbose gets the most important, and last comments regarding the topic in this thread. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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