Leap, Blink, Charge

StingSting Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14806Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Does anyone else have problems?</div> So i have been playing NS since 1.03 now (i know now very long) but i dunno whats wrong. with my computer, i CANT use leap, blink, or charge. they just dont work on my computer. i have a 1.1 ghz, 512 ram, 64meg gefroce2 pro, and winXP. with winxp my frame rate is capped at 60, dunno how to fix it. ive been hearing that these attacks are tied into frame rate and stuff like that. cause when i play on friends' computers, i can use leap, blink, and charge. i was just wondering if anyone else experiences the same problems, or can offer a solution for me. Thanks a bunch

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  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    Take that v-sync off from your OpenGL setup. It helps. My fps were locked to 60, just like yours and i have a bit slower computer (1.0 ghz, 256 ram, geforce2 mx400 64Mt and win 2000). After i take that v-sync off, my max fps is now 72 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Those attacks are <b>NOT</b> tied to fps. When there are lots of action, my fps is 10 and i can still use leap, blink and charge.

    Oh, and you really should have putted this topic in Tech Support forum. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    could u exlpain a little more?

    Like when u press the desired weapon button (3), does it show the menu in the upper left corner? or do u use fast_weaponsomething 1?

    And when u press the button does it take the enrgy for that attack?
  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I've never had this problem with charge, but I have had problems with leap and blink. I believe its because of server lag. Sometimes as a skulk, I'll leap forward, and half a second later be teleported back to my original spot. My client knows that I leapt, and starts showing the leap animation, but because of server lag, the server doesn't get the message and teleports me back where I am. If the server is lagging really bad, I cant leap at all. Pretty much the same thing with blink, I'll blink forward, then be teleported back to my original spot.
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    Ok, you need to define "can't". Do you mean that you press the buttons and NOTHING at all happens, or it just doesn't work quite right (IE Blink gets stuck in wall, or doesn't go anywhere, or cant manage to hit anything with leap).

    Blink doing NOTHING at all I can understand. Its pretty buggy. To use blink, jump up, crouch, aim slightly above your target, and fire.

    Leap and charge doing NOTHING at all I have a hard time believing. I've never heard of anyone leaping/charging and have nothing at all happen. I've heard of people missing or not using them right. To use leap effectively, you have to 'stick' to your target for a good duration. It does 4 damage per 'tick' which is an amount of time on the server. Charge does 16 per tick. So in order to use these effectively, you have to hit your target and stay on it. The moment you touch the floor with leap, it ends. So to maximize leap, you have to hit your target pretty quickly, and stay stuck to him for the duration of leap. Charge goes until you run out of energy, so if you slide off just turn around and do it again.
  • StingSting Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14806Members
    sorry for not being clear
    to the first reply, changing vsync did not help the problem

    to the others
    when i go to use them, my team has 2 or more hives. so i select leap, blink, or charge.
    lets start with leap
    i select leap and hit attack. the leap animation plays, the sound plays, i lose engery, but i do NOT leap forward, and i do NOT deal any damage ( have tested so much but it just doesnt work for me)
    with blink same scenario
    have 2+ hives, andi select blink. i hit attack, blink animation plays, sound plays, i lose energy but i do NOT teleport. ive tried going straight up in big open place by viaduct hive, anything. ive tried it numerous times with ducking, jumping, aiming, etc etc.
    with charge we have all hives
    i select charge, hit attack, animation plays, sound plays, lose energy and i even go faster. but i do not do any damage. (i dunno if i really have a problem with this. i have tested it and have never noticed any damage, but have not tested it as extensively as blink or leap.
    so i really have no idea whats going on
    what is strange though, is that all my attacks are red highlighted. example, as a skulk with 3 hives, all my four attacks are in red, yet i can still use them all (even if leap does not perform for me)
    i have been to a friends house and noticed the same thing but i dont think it has anything to do with me not being able to leap, blink, charge.
    anyway i hope that answers some questions, so some ppl can help me
    if u need more answers, just reply

    thanks
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    Hmm. I got one word for you: reinstallns
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    how do u change vsync? im running 1.8 ghz, 256 ddr and geforce 2 mx and my stupid fps is capped at 60. i cant jet forever with 60. for a long time yes but not forever. hey and the guy with 72 cap now? change fps_max in ns to higher. since the cap is set at 72 maybe ur comp can go higher. how do u change vsync?how do u change vsync?how do u change vsync?
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AIRinc.F|aReZ+Mar 23 2003, 10:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AIRinc.F|aReZ @ Mar 23 2003, 10:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how do u change vsync? im running 1.8 ghz, 256 ddr and geforce 2 mx and my stupid fps is capped at 60. i cant jet forever with 60. for a long time yes but not forever. hey and the guy with 72 cap now? change fps_max in ns to higher. since the cap is set at 72 maybe ur comp can go higher. how do u change vsync?how do u change vsync?how do u change vsync? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Download RivaTuner. It lets you override the max fps that windows sets up so you get the max fps that your monitor can actually handle. And it lets you turn on/off vsynce and lets you do a gazillion things to improve performance.
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    thnx alot there. where can i find this dl?
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    hey im pretty noob with all this tweaking stuff can you help me out here? what do i do exactly to increase my performance using rivatuner?
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    ooooooooooooooh thanx alot now my fps is capped at 100.. well at least in eclipse ready room... 80 in ec itself with nothing at all.
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AIRinc.F|aReZ+Mar 23 2003, 11:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AIRinc.F|aReZ @ Mar 23 2003, 11:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey im pretty noob with all this tweaking stuff can you help me out here? what do i do exactly to increase my performance using rivatuner? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    theres far tooo much stuff for me to take you through it here. I'm sure you can find some great tweaking guides on google.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i cant jet forever with 60<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Diddums. That told me all about whether I want to help you or not. Like we need one more person who's <b>wanting</b> to use the bugs.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sting14+Mar 23 2003, 10:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sting14 @ Mar 23 2003, 10:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i select charge, hit attack, animation plays, sound plays, lose energy and i even go faster. but i do not do any damage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you sure that you have tryed charge? You said that you go faster.....if you use primal scream, then you can run faster, but charge doesn't effect your speed at all.
  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Are you sure that you have tryed charge?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Are <b>YOU</b> sure that you have tried charge? Because it most certainly DOES increase your movement speed.
  • SecretFireSecretFire Join Date: 2003-01-02 Member: 11712Members
    This is quite likely the problem: check the <b>cl_lw</b> variable. It should be set to 1. When set to zero, leap and blink stop working ( I haven't tested charge, but I assume it's similar)

    So in your console type: cl_lw 1

    The cl_lw is client side attack prediction. For example, it shows you a stready stream of lmg fire/skulk bites on your screen, regardless of when the attack packets are reaching the server. This is set to 1 by default, which is why guns always seem to be firing instatneously.

    As for the bug itself, no one on the team ever answered why attack prediction breaks leap and blink.
  • AIRinc_FaReZAIRinc_FaReZ Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14763Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Typhon+Mar 23 2003, 11:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Typhon @ Mar 23 2003, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--AIRinc.F|aReZ+Mar 23 2003, 11:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AIRinc.F|aReZ @ Mar 23 2003, 11:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey im pretty noob with all this tweaking stuff can you help me out here? what do i do exactly to increase my performance using rivatuner? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    theres far tooo much stuff for me to take you through it here. I'm sure you can find some great tweaking guides on google. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thanx anyway.
  • StingSting Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14806Members
    SECRET FIRE I LOVE YOU!!!
    i havent tested this out but i know 100% that i run cl_lw 0
    cause i hate the client predictions
    im going to go test this out right now!!!
    thank you sooooo much!
  • StingSting Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14806Members
    just tested it! it works now!
    thanks again secret fire!
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Heh, yes having client prediction turned on is a must. As for wether they work correctly or not, blink and charge are some of the trickest abilities.

    Blink, as some said just takes practice, and jumping and aiming high usualy helps.

    As for charge, its hard to tell if its working, untill something dies. I far prefer the Primal Scream/Bite, bleedin jackhammer on speed.
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