Reporters..ugh

greyfox5greyfox5 Join Date: 2002-02-14 Member: 217Members
edited March 2003 in Discussions
I sometimes hate reporters with all my being. Yes they have the rights, but what gives them the right to shove a mic into some guys face who just got convicted of something, and yell stupid, incoherent questions right in his ears? I think the American News is trying to give the public a view of
"the war is going well, we will win" I do believe that, but I dont need to turn every channel to it being stated over and over in different contexts. I dont remember if it was on CCN or Fox, but some reporter was getting in the way of marching soldiers. And another, was trying to ask a soldier questions when he was trying to load a .50cal on a hummer. He was fumbling with the chains, and muttering embaressed answers. It took him at least 1 minuite to load it, when it should have taken him 20 seconds to grab another chain, pull the reciever up, close it down, and c.o.c.k(what the hell, thats a cursword?) the bolt. That reporter was getting in the way of his job. What if he was under fire, and the reporter was trying to ask him what he was supposed to do? That soldier is stuck on top of a hummer with no way to fire back at the enemy. Some people love the reporters, and thrive under questions, some, cant perform thier duty when interviewed with a reporter. Another was laying right on a Bradly turret, while people where driving it. What if they encountered a tank? Or soldiers? The Bradly crew would not be able to fire, because that man was sitting on a thousand doller gun turret.
I think reporters should be off the battlefield. They sometimes get in the way, even if they dont know it. My uncle told me a story of a reporter in Vietnam, who got in the way of marching soldiers, and stepped on a mine, which caused the VC to ambush them. See what I mean? There has been hundreds of incidents caused by
non-trained "battlefield" reports in all the wars.

Comments

  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Didn't a reporter get killed yesturday in Iraq?

    I dont know what happened..

    I like the reporters, they are providing us with information on the war, and information about current going ons.

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  • KMOKMO Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7617Members
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  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    I once gave a reporter a good beating for harassing a friend of mine who was at the center of a military contraversy. He hasn't written an article since.
  • CanadianWolverineCanadianWolverine Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13249Members
    Ahh, but even if the reporters weren't in the way, what would be the solution for imbeded reporters so that american public, and subsequently the the world public, could have their spies ( <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ) among the military conflict? Wouldn't the other solution to some stupid civilian running around grunts looking like a little kid ("Are we there yet?") be a soldier who is the reporter? How would viewers feel if the reporter showed himself puting rounds into an opposing soldier/militia man's head so he doesn't get capped in the back and they can advance to the next target? Or what of the other alternative, having reporters go in after the work of war is finished and an area is "safe", didn't they try that last time in Kuwait and the reporters all bitched about not getting to see what really happened but rather "fed" news by the COs (commanding officers)? How much reporting do you think anyone could deal with?

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  • MarocMaroc Join Date: 2002-08-31 Member: 1255Members
    Its not like we are getting the real story anyway. When you think about it, everything the reporters are doing is controlled strictly by the US Propoganda machine. Its so baltantly obvious that i'm sick of it, and if it wasn't for CNN showing pretty pictures of stuff blowing up, I wouldn't watch it.


    You cannot find the real news anywhere, you look at the American news stations, and all they do is pump up the war and report on spectulations of evil things the Iraqis are doing... sure they think the Iraqis are using civilians as human shields, but they don't have any proof of it. Have they ONE picture of a Iraqi Soldier holding a civilian at gunpoint.... no course not, its all about propoganda. If they can make the Iraqis seem more like Nazis (which they are doing, they have begun parralleling the Nazi party and the Bath party (i think thats what Saddam's party is called) by saying things like "the republican guard is like the german gustapo") and make another 1% of the American population fall into favour the war, all the better. Aslo today I was watching many reports about the PoWs the Iraqis captured, and its horrible... I sympathize with the families of the American PoWs but FFS, it isn't nessacry. I mean, its war, and war is Hell. If the American media is going to make this large of a fuss over the capture of 5 soldiers and the death of 30ish (i don't know the current number) what the hell are they going to say when they march into Baghdad and start losing troops by the hundreds or even thousands. I guess its all about winning of Hearts and Minds.


    On the other hand of the coin, the Arab news papers for example Arabic News and Al-Ahram, play the Americans as the Big Evil Imperial Army of Doom. I agree with this for the most part, but sometimes I wonder what they are saying is anywhere near the truth, my guess, probably not. I know they can't report a lie, but I would assume that they are reporting quite the obscure vision of the truth (however, albeit it quite interesting).


    Reporters in the field, useless, except for getting pictures, any soild news report doesn't exist. Everything is so biased and blatantly overplayed that it is sickening. The propoganda machine is hard at work winning 1% of the American population's opinion vote at a time. And to think that the American Army is gonig to let the real story out (i.e. the capture of 30ish 101st airbourne troops (thanks Al-Ahram)) is just stupid. Look for the real story between the lines, and do your own reporting, you'll be better off.

    Remember: The believer is happy; The doubter is wise.

    I await your responses.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
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    Hmmm, I think you should take another look at your post. What makes you believe that the Arabic papers are being truthful about those captures if they declare the Americans to be the Imperial Army of Doom? It's ALL propaganda, and to say that all the Arabic news or all the American news is truthful is being naive. Facts and figures can be easily altered. Unless the Arabics provided photographs of all of those prisoners grouped together, I would view that with as much skepticism as anything else.
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