I Just Played A Game Of Firearms....

Duo_MaxwellDuo_Maxwell Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4631Members
edited March 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">WTH!?</div> I was playing the map ps_marine when a sniper was shooting the **** out of my team. I grabed a G36 and proned near some sandbags. I saw me prone and aimed his gun on the only way from where i could should at him. I zoomed in and moved asside. I got him in my scope , fire on shot right in is head. A big smile appeares on my face....untill i read this :

[Redemption]E-reXion : OMG NOT POSSIBLE! Hawkins you freaking **** put a helmet on!
Me: I got a helmet on, you just need to learn how to pull the trigger.
[Redemption]E-reXion : What was that , me? freaking exploiter.
Me: lissen , i got a helmet on and you need to learn that your not superman.
[Redemption]E-reXion : Looser.
Me: n00b learn to loose (i just joined the game ,and whit him camping ,my score was 3-4)
[Redemption]E-reXion : Oh i'm the n00b? (his score was 11-3)
Then all the present clans begin flaming at me that i'm an exploiter ,a **** , that i'm the n00b, ect.
Me: are you all like 12 years old?
[Redemption]E-reXion : No , are you?
The flaming starts all over.

This was the only time whit any mod that i got this situation, atleast you guys who play NS can thake it when there shot down.
I wonder how idiots like that are able to even start up halflife.
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  • tseepratseepra Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10530Members
    edited March 2003
    AND?

    every mod I have played has those kinds of people
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  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    What cheat would this be? Invisable helmet?
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  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
    I never quite understood why not wearing a helmet is an exploit, surely you get hurt more if you're hit in the head <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    I play on /="]["/>scooby420's, there's usually very little of that.

    Yeah, as long as you wear a helmet you'll be fine. Oh, and get CD, it really shuts down the noobs who call you a hacker. (I pulled a 50::20 yesterday with the M16 and a claymore, I NEED CD to survive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
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  • tseepratseepra Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10530Members
    Oh, I didn't know it was cheating to not wear a helmet.

    /me puts on his bicycle helmet

    Ok, ready to own some marines.
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    Yeah, big mommy at vALVE was worried about little kids bursting into tears and banging their heads on the desks when they die that they requested all mods have a rule: "Always wear a helmet. We don't want wittle Tommykins to bruise his forehead, do we?"
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  • ThePhilipsThePhilips Join Date: 2002-09-09 Member: 1302Members
    Yeah why it's so important to wear a helmet? I asked in game and they never gave me a serious answer. So really, NOBODY KNOWS WHY TO HAVE A HELMET.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    OK! This is why you need to wear a Helmet. By not wearing a Helmet, your head has no/VERY SMALL hitboxes. Wearing a Helmet gives you regular Hit Boxes.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    But that's clearly a feature of the game, not a freaking exploit... they're just whining...
    Like... OMG HE COULD SEE ME THROUGH WALLS AND I DONT CARE THAT HE SAID THAT HE HAS MOTION TRACKING!!! HE MUST CHEAT!... or did I miss something along the lines of that helmets are supposed to always on due to code, but there was a bug so you don't have to?
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  • SavantSavant Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10289Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Firearms, ahh, that brings back memories... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'm still waiting for 2.7 to come out before I go back and play it some more. I waited and waitied and got sick of waiting while people went nuts just exploiting a couple guns. Mind you it's hard to get on to the good FA servers now since there are so few of them. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Maybe 2.7 will re-energize the community, although I'm not holding my breath.

    Regards,

    Savant
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    No, you don't understad. If you don't wear a helmet, it's damn near impossible to hit your head. It's downright cheap, I'm serious, I've bullseye'd people for 3 Sniper shots to the head to no avail.

    The only thing I really hate is the Bizon. God I hate that gun... 66 rounds, and it's damn near impossible to knife against.
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  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    I used to play Firearms, all the time in fact (DarkFreja/Red Dragon on the LRRP server, the old FT and now Zoo server and The Armory).

    I hate that mod now. I'd be crouching in complete darkess, no ambient lighting. I couldnt even see my own gun. With a silenced mp5, 92f and uzi, I took out 2 guys then this third guy runs by, turns, puts three shots straight into my head. Plus the FAMAS ticks me off too much.
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  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yeah the helmet/head hitbox issue is a known bug, but it has got to the point where if you don't wear a helmet your nearly always called an exploiter.

    I've given up on FA after playing it religiously for a longass time as my ex FA clan leader said "wth theyve turned into counterfirestrikearms"
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  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    I hope this doesnt happen to NS
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  • SavantSavant Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10289Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited March 2003
    Yeah me too.

    I played FA for a long time as well and watched the fan base melt away. Now if you go do a list of FA servers, you may get 30 that actually have any people playing. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    While I can respect the developers, they just were not interested in the community aspect of the game. They let balance issues fester, and with huge bugs like the one noted above it has made the admin's job more difficult by having to enforce 'local rules' to get around these kinds of exploits.

    A great mod in my eyes, and always will be, but only a shawdow of what it once was, and what it could have become.

    Regards,

    Savant
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--GWAR+Mar 26 2003, 01:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ Mar 26 2003, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope this doesnt happen to NS <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It wont. Playerbase is too big for a huge change and stuff, and the presmise of the mod is better. FA is a giant frag hunt, NS has actual teamwork.

    Not to mention the fact that there's not 7 assault rifles...

    Savant nailed it. If the team were to release patches in small chunks... new sounds here, balance changes there.... the game would rock. It does not rock, as they are on average, 1 year between updates. Way too long. Players get bored, hear the hype for the next version, come back then and are dissapointed by the lack of balance and game killing bugs. (Stupid fricking bodies getting in my way...)
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  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    NS keeps it real <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    You get a basic set of weapons, its up to you to use your skills to kill something with them. No excuses.
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  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    Other than "OMG h4x!"
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  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Mar 26 2003, 12:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Mar 26 2003, 12:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only thing I really hate is the Bizon. God I hate that gun... 66 rounds, and it's damn near impossible to knife against. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh. . . Narfwak, Flying Bizon.

    ph34r.
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  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Bah. I say they roll back FA to 2.5, and be done with it. Give some of these newbies exposure to a REAL gun that they can whine about... the Steyr Aug. Played FA since pre-2.0, but 2.65 was enough to make me drop out and walk away. I mean, COME ON. Sniper rifles that DON'T shoot where you point them? Gimme back my damned M82, to the point where it WON'T hit three damn feet to the right of someone across a bridge, when I'm kneeling to fire it.
    The Aug. The Saiga (hellooooo shotty-****!). The helmet-cam. I don't see the Bizon or the FAMAS as really 'overkilling', considering both guns do exactly what they're meant to. But in v2.7, there had f*cking well BETTER be a sniper rifle that can hit jack crap with a little bit of power, or I'm gonna be ****. :b
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  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Firearms has too many weapons for its own good IMHO. You can't balance them all by releasing it to the community and letting them sort it out. You add weapons gradually, carefully.
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  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--TenSix+Mar 28 2003, 01:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TenSix @ Mar 28 2003, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Firearms has too many weapons for its own good IMHO. You can't balance them all by releasing it to the community and letting them sort it out. You add weapons gradually, carefully. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And you update more than once a year.
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  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    Does that little hat thing that you wear when you don't buy a helmet count? If it does than what the hell are people talking about?
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  • NarfNarf Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2609Members
    FA was an ok game, but i never got into it because it's playstyle never appealed to me. I would pick up my m16, give some poor sucker 3 bursts to the chest and he would whip around and blow me away in .03 seconds with the mp5. The balance is really pretty terrible between the weapons and like the thread reveals there are tons of unfixed exploits/issues. I'd much rather play NS, or DoD. At least DoD doesn't try TOO hard for realism for it's own good.
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