Veterans -- A Worriesom Topic

CEldinCEldin Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1323Members
I understand the Development Team's need to adress Clan Play's issues. I am fully for this, and am very exstatic with this "veterans" program idea. I know playtesters are dedicated, and an effective tool, but they are just not as competitive as the pro clans (there are a bunch of exceptions) and I commend the recognation if this fact.

It has however come to my attention that the PUBLIC play of this v1.1 will be VERY limited; ie, regs on beta servers will get 1.1 beta privelidges. These regulars are most likely in clans of less rank than the 'veterans', but nonetheless skilled and effective. This is where the problem lies; I am worried that the final product will be an exceptional tournament game, and a rather clunky casual game. This would effectivly destroy any influx of NS players that 1.1 might have brought in by scaring them off. It would also have the adverse effect of deterring would-be clanners from continueing to play, driving what little players (by little, i mean comparitivly to DoD or CS) NS has away.

I'm not sure how this will/or if it will be adressed, but I do not believe I am the ONLY one with these concerns, just perhaps one of the more vocal ones.

PS:
(If you are responding, please do not get nitpicky and respond to direct things in here, i realize spelling is off, i want response to the issue, not my shoddy presentation)

Comments

  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    They regular Playtesters (guys that Playtested 1.0) will be testing here. As we can see from version 1.0, we had a great public game and poor gameplay in tournament mode.

    Now, we'll have the best of both worlds. The regular PTs will test public type play and the Veterans group will test the higher end tournament type aspects.

    I think Flayra is wise to follow this course of action.
  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    I wouldnt worry too much the original PTers will still be PTing, clans will just be PTing tournement mode.
  • HoMIciDaL_PuPPyHoMIciDaL_PuPPy Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10091Members
    yeh i trust the clannies with the testing.
  • do0biedo0bie Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11384Members
    I think the trick is to have the "Veteran" PTers feedback balanced with the current PT crew. It'd be great if the two communicated and worked together and I would be all for that. I also know that not everyone likes each other, which is one of those crappy things in life. Another argument too, is that many games only have clan Pters and apparently by balancing for competitive play you balance for casual play. Honestly I dont know enough about which games have done that to really back it up but a lot of people have said it that I know aren't idiots.

    The "Veteran" PTers simply want the game to be the best it can be for everyone, clanners and pubbers. Not just themselves.

    Don't worry too much, itll only make you die younger and hasn't been proven to do anything yet. I think the game will turn out well if <b>everyone</b> respects each other's opinion.

    -doob
    #teameve @gamesnet
  • KalmahKalmah Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14143Members
    I don't think the PTs would let the game become too competitive. They'd be all over flayra if the Veterans wanted to put something in that would hurt the pub games a lot. So, now we will "hopefully" have a good balance, unless somehow if/when the PTs get it first, they mess it up in some major way for the clan play
  • CEldinCEldin Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1323Members
    edited April 2003
    I neglected to remember (i never forget, much like an elephant) that the PTs were still going to be there. You've put my mind at ease <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    edit: i'm not quite as big as an elephant . I do like penuts though.
  • FirewaterFirewater Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--do0bie+Apr 7 2003, 06:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (do0bie @ Apr 7 2003, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think the trick is to have the "Veteran" PTers feedback balanced with the current PT crew. It'd be great if the two communicated and worked together and I would be all for that. I also know that not everyone likes each other, which is one of those crappy things in life. Another argument too, is that many games only have clan Pters and apparently by balancing for competitive play you balance for casual play. Honestly I dont know enough about which games have done that to really back it up but a lot of people have said it that I know aren't idiots.

    The "Veteran" PTers simply want the game to be the best it can be for everyone, clanners and pubbers. Not just themselves.

    Don't worry too much, itll only make you die younger and hasn't been proven to do anything yet. I think the game will turn out well if <b>everyone</b> respects each other's opinion.

    -doob
    #teameve @gamesnet <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    anyone else find it ironic that the original PTers are not recognized as the Veteran PTers?
  • CEldinCEldin Join Date: 2002-09-16 Member: 1323Members
    Not really, Veteran refers to somone who...oh wait, yes it is ironic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Spyder_MonkeySpyder_Monkey Vampire-Ninja-Monkey Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 8Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited April 2003
    <span style='color:white'><b>Stay on topic.

    [edit]You had your chance.[/edit]</span></b>
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