1.1 Anti-cheating

GriffinGriffin Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15445Members
in NS General Discussion
Its about time you had vac <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
these bloody hackers have been getting up my nose
THEY HAVE OGC TWEAKS FOR IT ALREADY!!!!
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  • GriffinGriffin Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15445Members
    Damn they need a new engine for half-life <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Just a FYI. VAC was working in 1.0, but due to a very hard bug to track down, whenevr you quit the game, you'r gamma would never reset, so it was always ultrabright. Notice that 'reset gamma' option in the start menu under NS? That was used a lot while it was in during testing <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • NightfireTGNightfireTG Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11508Members
    i just wish that the VAC can deal with those bloody cheaters.
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  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    I just pray vac shuts them down, but from what i know of vac, alot of cheats get through. For a while it should be fairly cheat free though.
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  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    I know for sure of a program that has the <u>at least</u> following options for NS v1.0:
    <ul>
    <li>Wall Hack
    <li>Aim-Bot
    <li>Speed Hack
    </ul>
    The Speed Hack is quite easy to pick out.
    The Wall Hack is a bit tricky to detect, as any seasoned marine player has learned how to use sound to know when the aliens are coming.
    The Aim-bot is moderately difficult to detect. All that is really required there is a lot of spectating the individual and you will eventually see patterns if they have an aimbot. You can't jump to conclusion here though.

    I'm interested in seeing how v1.1 will affect this.
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  • KenichiKenichi This is not a pie. Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
    I can see that initially vac will catch all the main bots with aimbot, but as for wallhack, there are many cs bots out there that are vac proof that go around wallhacks, so i can still see that as a problem.
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  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    Yeah, I witnessed a skulk speed hacking today.

    You can recognize it when a skulk makes the bite sound about 10 times per second. Sounds more like an old engine than something biting.
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  • ChurchChurch Meatshield grunt-fodder // Has pre-ordered NS2 Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11646Members, Constellation
    We head a person named "Sherman" in our server that used wallhack and aimbot. When the game first started he ran, alone, into our hive, and slaughtered me (the gorge) and a few other members of my team without blinking an eye. He turns a corner and doesn't even need to look for us, just immediate bam bam bam and the aliens are dead. and I mean not even one millisecond of delay just instanmd aim instant shoot. We had to repeatedly slay him to annoy him enough to get off the server. Of course, by that time he managed to recycle everything in base. Yes, cheats do exist.
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  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    The anti-cheat problems have no doubt been worked out as of now. And in hope 1.1 brings a successful working VAC module system I've been reporting all the NS cheats I can find on various sites to alert VALVe so they can modify detections for these cheats.
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  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    Cheats exist and the people who uses them are retards. Period.
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  • voogruvoogru Naturally Modified (ex. NS programmer) Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1827Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Comprox+Apr 13 2003, 12:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Apr 13 2003, 12:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just a FYI. VAC was working in 1.0, but due to a very hard bug to track down, whenevr you quit the game, you'r gamma would never reset, so it was always ultrabright. Notice that 'reset gamma' option in the start menu under NS? That was used a lot while it was in during testing <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I use that a lot.

    Mainly becuase I go into debug with the server-side mods, and when it crashes (which is a lot when im experimenting!) it leaves everything ultra bright <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    Yeah I don't think the cheating problem is quite as bad as some people think. Ok is a skulk can bite 10 times a second that an obvious cheat, but someone just being very good at knowing where aliens are spawning is very easy actually It's called surround sound. I have it and I've be called a cheater because I can hear aliens moving around in the vent and then shoot them as they exit, I've been accused of having a wall hack becasue of this.
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  • civman2civman2 Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6116Members, Constellation
    The first person spectating ought to help admins spot aimbots rather easily.
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Especially with first-person spectating <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    my goal is to be accused of hacking as much as possible without actually hacking <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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