[mwip] Zerg Hive

enf0rcer

<div class="IPBDescription">i think i need to get a life..</div> yea well.. i've had nothing better to do.. its a school day and i dont feel like doing homework so i just made a hive instead.... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Anyways i've got a bit of a problem.. this pic shows it right side up but ingame it'll hang upside down from roof. but.. as u kno the hive is hanging from the roof so i need a way to have it attach to the ceiling. Should i just add vines? If u have a better idea please share it with me.

<img src='http://www.boomspeed.com/tutorials/hive.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:13pt;line-height:100%'><b> e/ check for updates on the next couple of pages.. i keep posting new pics </b></span> </span>

coil

The real problem is that some maps have the hive extending to the full length of its tentacles, and some have it buried into the ceiling. /:

I might suggest making a cylindrical/teardrop-shaped base of infestation, as if it's hanging from it... it'd be more convincing that a huge thing like that was supported by something more substantial than a few thin tentacles.

Looks pretty sweet so far!

Shask

Nice Model Buddy. i think u should add like maybe like aBig Think vine in the middle that sticks to cieling. instead of 4 little viens. 1 big thick one <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. EDIT: LOL me and coil said the same thing. just explained it in diff ways lol.

enf0rcer

hrm.. these sound look good ideas.. yes a tear drop.. yes.. excellent *rubs hands together* .thanks. Also geek offered to skin my egg but thats just a small job and he is busy with ultralisk so it is unlikely that he will be able to skin this right now (if ever depending on if he wants too) So anyone who has talent at skinning speak up !!11one!!1. and animators too. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

BlaqWolf

i think it should hang by those three massive tentacles... make them longer so it looks like it's hanging from them. and of course, make the teardrop thingy... that'd make it sweet.

nice model so far!

coil

Note: the hive will be hanging upside-down in the final version (an idea I totally support). The "teardrop" I suggested would come out of the current bottom of the model, tapering to a point. I'd suggest testing on maps like Eclipse (Maintenance hive), since the hive hangs fairly far from the ceiling there. You may have to go with tentacles to get it to match up... /: If that's the case, I'd suggest a 4-pointed, webbing-like construction - like the current tentacles & "flaps" between them, but far more substantial.

Pvt_Hudson

mm, looking good, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

but i think someone is already making an overlord for a hive?

well, it doens't matter, i think i will use whichever is a better one <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

keep up the good work.

enf0rcer

hrm... overlord eh? That would make an easier replacement for the current hive because of the shape but meh. I've already started this now so :-P

Mr_Headcrab

with some tweaking, that could make a wicked phasegate!

BigPopaSmurf

Yeah, I like the Overlord idea better, just b/c hive are friggin huge, and I don't think that they would work too well w/ the current setup of some of the hives, like in nothing, power silo is'n't anywhere near the cieling. An Overlord would fit perfectly, IMO, logistically that is.

Murder_Wink

An Overlord Hive would be a much better idea, since hives were huge. It would look really strange and out of place if the Hydralisk was half the size of the Hive...

The Overlord will also fit most hives perfectly because it floats so there is no need seeing those "strings" floating in the air

Don't let this post stop you from completing this tho, I would still like to see a Zerg Hive, since another person is working on the Overlord.

El_Diablos

What if you added some sort of a big round sack to the bottom kind of like a gestation chamber before the alien popped out the top hole. Then make it hang from those 3 tentacle like shapes already on that hive?

Murder_Wink

The aliens (actually larva) spawn from the 3 "tubes" leading from the centre of the Hive, that big hole in the middle is not in any pics of the hive I have seen before.

As far as I know that hole in the middle is not there. It should be replaced with some living thing (blob-like)

Also is this a Hive or Lair? Cuz the Hive has spikes on its tentacles whereas the Lair does not.

MalambisBZ

Looks like a Hatchery to me.

Murder_Wink

Well, Hatcheries dont have those things sticking out of them.

MalambisBZ

Fine, half hatchery half lair. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

<span style='color:red'>EDIT:</span> Now that I look at some pics (been a long time since i've played) it looks nearly 100% Lair.

<img src='http://www.battle.net/images/battle/scc/zerg/pix/buildings/adv/lair.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Murder_Wink

Yeah It looks like a Lair just add some detail the the hole in the middle and you've got it.

enf0rcer

its a WIP.. but yea the overlord is just easier to fit in-game.. its a shame cause i think this would look nice :-P

Murder_Wink

Yeah as I said don't let my Overlord post (and others) stop you from finishing this, I would really want to see how this looks in-game. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

JoltGris

Hmpf! I'm not using some stupid support center as hive!
I WANT YOUR SC HIVE! Keep up the good work!
Thumbs up!!

enf0rcer

damn.. its 1762 polys.. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> which is kinda killer. I added a teardrop hanging thing and teeth thingies. I need a mesher animater and skinner (or i can have a go at the skin) .. so i dunno if this will even be released. Depends on if ppl want it enuff to help me out. Latest shots:

SnO0Py

Dude that thing is sweet! Add some teeth to the arms too (just make them really undetailed, you should only need 100-200 polies to make one row of teeth on each arm).

SnO0Py

Oh and make the tenticle thicker, maybe not as thick as the picture(I think it would look good like that) but you get the idea...

KuBaN

at first I didn't plan on using this, but now that i see how you're going to keep the hive right-side up and up, and all that stuff, I've reconsidered.

Keep up the good work!!!!

SnO0Py

Uhhh...KuBaN..........nevermind...

coil

A) Snoopy, that's exactly what I had in mind with the "teardrop" - thanks for the image. (: I'd also suggest incorporating the edge of the hive itself into the curve of the "teardrop," so it looks like it's growing out of the mass. It's a bit of artistic license, but then again so is turning it upside down. (;

B) I think the intent is still to turn it upside down. Speaking of which, can we get a pic of it inverted?

KuBaN

Oh I thought that it was going to stand on that and the pillars woudl just lack hitboxes so they couldn't be shot.... damn....
Oh well I'll probably use it anyway.

enf0rcer

ok pic of it hanging.. hrm.. coil whats the original hive Poly count?

Rico

i really do need to play Star carft, very nice model btw.

enf0rcer

ok original hive is 1395.. so i dare say i can't cut off some polys and make it a bit more reasonable.

Pvt_Hudson

very nice, <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

a suggestion, can u make some pointy thingy, like spikes at the top of the 3 tenacle like thing? in the hive screenshot, u can see that there are 3 hook like thing on the top.