Can Alien's Open Up Weldables?

CrowCrow Melbourne Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12376Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Gorges?</div> I'm not really new to NS... Just didn't know where else to put this new topic? Can't find any other topic on this matter anywhere else on the forum, so i started a new one.
My questions:

1. Do aliens have a way to open up weldables? I remember reading that gorges spit could do this.

2. Also does gorge's spit, heal spray, or webs blow up mines? I also remember reading that u had to aim up higher than the mine to do it?

*Some things just ain't list in the manual now days <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> * (or maybe i don't look hard enough <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->)

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thx.

Comments

  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    1. Yes, but ONLY the vent in Bast leading into the marines base up top. Currently that's the only weldable that gets opened like that. Yeah, gorges spit is the weapon that does it. It's rather tricky, you ought to have somebody show you how it's done.

    2. Gorge spit will, but that again, is releativly tricky.
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2.  Gorge spit will, but that again, is releativly tricky.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I find aiming to the side of the mine where the beam almost starts works well..
  • KhazModanKhazModan Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15500Members, Constellation
    i find letting someone go in front of you works well also

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TheGlowTheGlow Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9650Members
    I know I heard lots of times about gorge WEBBING opening vents, and then spit only, and then that about only on bast. I never got it to work and only tried once for like 10 secs with web. I gave up.

    As for mines, I just used regular spit at a bunch of them and they popped. I dont have extensive experience with them, just one time there was a clump of them and I got fed up, went gorge and just threw alot of spit in that direction and each loogie seemed to detonate a mine.
  • TheMuffinManTheMuffinMan Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11234Members, Constellation
    one gorge spit to the middle bar on a closed vent will open it on ns_bast only. It doesnt not work on any other level
  • The_SpectreThe_Spectre Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9212Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> one gorge spit to the middle bar on a closed vent will open it on ns_bast only. It doesnt not work on any other level <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've heard this a hundred times. I've tried this a hundred times. The vent has always stayed closed. I have also seen other people try it, and it stays closed. I have never seen that vent be opened by any alien action.

    What OS is the server that you play on running? I think I've only tried this on linux servers. Does anyone have any IPs of windows servers to try this on?

    To detonate mines as a gorge:
    For floor-mines, use this as a guideline: if you're on the same height as the mine, spit horizontally straight above the mine. This should detonate it. The hit-zone is in the same place for wall-mines, so fire just beyond the starting point of the laser.
  • ChuchumanquiqChuchumanquiq Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15560Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zunni+Apr 22 2003, 01:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zunni @ Apr 22 2003, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2.  Gorge spit will, but that again, is releativly tricky.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I find aiming to the side of the mine where the beam almost starts works well.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sounds like a bug... maybe the spit's radius hit should be a little bigger?
  • CrowCrow Melbourne Join Date: 2003-01-16 Member: 12376Members
    Thx for everyone's replies... Sounds like Blast is either a little buggy and it doesn't work all the time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> .

    If u look on nancy*i think* The subspace hive with the vent looks like perfect place for sulks to attack a marine outpost. Also on Nothing the vent to the base is closed to begin with- it really doesn't serve a great purpose for the marines.

    I recon that it would be nice addition to the game if aliens were be able to weld closed/open everything the marines could. It'd give the alien's a couple more strats in the overplayed levels.
    Anyway, thx. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TheGlowTheGlow Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9650Members
    I think I also heard something about the vent opening is tied in as a side effect of diff server settings. Who knows. Ive been on maps where as a skulk I CAN NOT climb ladders. You just jiggle alot and gain no ground. Ive been on others where you dont move for about 1-2 secs, and then you go up.
    Its weird. I have no clue why it is that. And itll be on certain servers and not others. Tends to happen more often for me on Caged.
  • FieariFieari Join Date: 2002-10-22 Member: 1566Members, Constellation
    For any who want to test the bast weld destroyable capability:

    Start NS.
    Start a LAN game on ns_bast.
    Type sv_cheats 1 in the console. Then bigdig.
    Join marines.
    Get in the com chair and build an armory, then drop a welder.
    Weld the vent.
    F4.
    Join aliens, and go gorge.
    Waddle up to the vent.
    Spit at the bar.
    Watch the weld shatter like glass.

    It only takes one hit if you aim correctly.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited April 2003
    (shouldn't have an apostrophe in "Alien's" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)

    um... yeah.

    Who can open what weldables depends TOTALLY on the map. Some weldables can only be welded open or closed, some weldable vents can be broken only with gorge spit or welders, and some vents can be broken with any weapon (which gorge spit and welders both qualify as anyway). There is no rule of thumb to follow. It depends completely on the individual location.

    By the way, webs don't open weldables. Ever. Only stuff that does damage, and even then only when used on one of those "will open for any weapon" grates.
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Bah...
    First you say Blast, OK I think
    Then you say sulks
    RAGE !
    hehe
    Better than turrents I guess..
  • FeydToBlackFeydToBlack Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13079Members
    It's quite easy to destroy mines as a gorge. Just walk over them......... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    To quote the goblins in Warcraft 2
    "KABOOOM !"
  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    haha silly jower noises are for me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> "*gorge walking* *click of mine* "uh oh" *pop*"
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