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TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Lotsa people.</div>over at file planet, on the irvine server ALONE, there are 200 people dloading an NS movie and 45 in line. wow.
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  • XTS_HighlanderXTS_Highlander Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 429Members
    I'm not sure if they group those lines by file or by server.  If it's the former, that could merely be the number of people who are downloading something from that server.  I think that you are right though.  Steve conducted a little experiment to find out once and for all.  I forget what he did, but he claims that the lineups are made by file instead of by server.  I dunno, you'll have to ask him.
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  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I'm pretty sure they're by server.
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  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    Server would make more sense, except for the unhideable fact that there is *never* a wait to download the Daikatana demo.
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  • EosEos Join Date: 2002-06-08 Member: 738Members
    Daikatana was a horrible game in my opinion. It was just horrible, MP was good thpugh <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    It is by server, I am 100% sure of that. As for the Daikatana download, it likely has its' own 486 server <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    The way Fileplanet works is that new and popular files go on one set of servers, and old, not-as-popular files go on another set of servers. The NS movie is a new file, so its on the popular servers.

    It is not one of the ten most downloaded files at the moment. It might have been up there earlier, but I wouldn't know.

    There have been 719 downloads of the file as of this moment. Not too many, but about the size of the population of this board.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    but it said 200 people were dling it.
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  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    It said 200 people were downloading <i>a</i> from that server, not that they were downloading <i>that</i> file from that server.  It would be great if it were the case, but it isn't.
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  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Filename: planethalflife/bite1.zip (4.2 MB)
    Downloads: 741

    not bad, considering its old news and most people prolly got it from rr.org already :)
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    If you think the wait is on server to server this will blow your mind..

    Me and this guy, SushiFugu, were both loading up fileplanet to to download the new Sof2 MP test.  I loaded the page before him and saw that it was a 70 min wait.  I said -- no way in hell.  About a min. later he says his wait, on the same server, was only 5 mins.  I say... hmmm -- ok and refresh the page.  In one minute the wait of 70 mins is now down to 40.  Question #1:  How did it drop 30 mins in a matter one min?  Question #2:  How come he has a wait of 5 mins when mine is 40?  Same file, same server.  I then go to a different file -- once again on the same server, and the wait is 10 mins.

    Becuase of the sudden drop in the wait time, over a one min period, I know that the whole wait thing is just a lie.  Also, I think that wait times might be different for people in different locations.  Sounds crazy?  Yeh - but in order to use fileplanet now-a-days you have to login to your GSA account which has where you are located.  I should have switched my location to his and then refresed to see but didnt think of it.
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  • Sgt_XSgt_X Join Date: 2002-03-01 Member: 261Members
    u sure u had the same server <!--emo&???--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'><!--endemo--> also are u close together geographicly and have similar connections?
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  • SonoSono Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 105Members
    Now that's strange.
    Normally you have to login with your GS ID to dl a file. (which is a damn idiotic thing)
    Yesterday I dl a lil Q3A mod file.
    And I didn't need to login. -> sense?
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    well I'm sure the wait lines uses priority queues, so people who are downloading small files will usely be served first...So your wait time depends on the file, don't think it depends on your location d:/
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    but cyan, he lives on the west coast, im in the east.  It was the same file, on the same server, at the same time.  No other explaination.
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  • f3rretf3rret Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 686Members
    To clear up a couple of things:

    FilePlanet uses a thing called "cookies". If you have them enabled, and login, it can leave a cookie on your computer. Then next time you go to fileplanet, it looks to see if this cookie is there. If it is, it automatically logs you in.

    The lineups are per server, not per file.

    The time remaining is estimated. It goes by the size of the line, and the rate of change of that line. If nobody has finished a download in the last little while, (ie: lotta people on dialup), then the "time remaining" would probably increase. If 50 of the 300 people downloading happen to finish within a few minutes of each other, then the program that estimates the wait time would see that the lineup is dropping really fast, and may estimate the time remaining to be less.

    Another thing to bear in mind is the fact that the Fileplanet server system doesn't estimate time very well. Once, there were (no joke) 700 people in line to download from a give server, and it told me that I had to wait 15 minutes. That 15 minute timer took about an hour and a half to count down.

    EDIT: It does not give a higher priority to smaller files. Try downloading 3 files of different sizes from the same server, and they will each have to wait in line the same amount of time (assuming you started waiting for them at the same time)

    --F3rret
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--f3rret+June 10 2002,10:52--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (f3rret @ June 10 2002,10:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->The lineups are per server, not per file.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Prove it.  I have proof that says otherwise, and it has happened to me on many different occasions.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->it told me that I had to wait 15 minutes. That 15 minute timer took about an hour and a half to count down.
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    Never had that one...
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  • f3rretf3rret Join Date: 2002-05-29 Member: 686Members
    Hmmm... maybe you should <a href="http://www.fileplanet.com/index.asp?page=fp_faq" target="_blank">read the FAQ</a>. That would be a good place to start.

    Or, <a href="http://members.rogers.com/f3rret1/fileplanet.jpg" target="_blank">click here</a>. The pic is big, and I didn't bother cropping it. That should be proof, though. I lined up to download the newest Global Ops Demo, an a memory benchmarking utility (that was over a year old) at the exact same time from the exact same server. This memory benchmark utility had fewer than 1000 downloads since it was put out in March of 2001. And yet, today there is a queue of over 600 people waiting for it? There is as many people downloading that as there is downloading the Global Ops demo? Not quite...

    I hope this helped clear things up for you. I agree, Fileplanet is screwy at times, but I know for SURE that the queue goes by server, not by file.

    --F3rret
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  • ICha0sIICha0sI Join Date: 2002-06-13 Member: 763Members
    tycho let me tell u somehting not to be mean but i been using f planet for a while now and the wai time is either none or 30 mins and above so dont get excited and dont say wow cuz i d loaded things that took 2 days its no big deal
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  • Sgt_XSgt_X Join Date: 2002-03-01 Member: 261Members
    /me points to date of last previous post and coughs, "Dead topic."

    /me think i should follow my own advice.
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  • Imperial_FistImperial_Fist Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 633Members
    fileplanet goes by servers. if someone from germany dl's something and someone from LA dl's it from the la server the guy from LA is gonna go alought faster cuz hese near the server. its like playing a game i live in BC wich is in the west of canada and if i play on a germany server i get a ping of 200-300. and the timelimit is on how many ppl are dling and wat conection theye "said" they had in the sighnup.
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  • ICha0sIICha0sI Join Date: 2002-06-13 Member: 763Members
    i can wait for the damn manual i just cant wait for the game  <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

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