Delarosa it isnt the ppolys that make the detail it is the skinner ok think about it and people would you PLZ READ THE OTHER POST BEFORE POSTING ONE. Thank you
Ok guys i know protoss for aliens doesn't match but consider this...
1)All the green and alien stuff that is on the walls can it be changed to make it like Metal or Protoss stuff <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> coz i dont have a clue 2)As this game is set in the future. well cant this be set in the Starcraft future revolutionize the world of Starccraft by making that the terrans alligance was broken with Protoss and now fight against, both knowing how they fight and what they do it is perfect 3)They dont have to hatch out of eggs u can just use a warp portal as they do in the actual game 4) Think about it people this is a total conversion it changes the whole of the ns world making the people who did this legends gods in there own way, changing from disgusting un-intellegent little floor crawlers to advance. intellegent beings <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
So just think of what othe people will think when they see that the story of ns is changed to a good old grudge between to advance races <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well as you most likely should know, a model is quite a lot of work, much more than say creating a sig or tag for someone. If someone makes a skin, it won't be to satisfy only one's demand. It's going to be for a whole community. He won't do just a fade if nobody really thinks it would fit. I wouldn't. That's because I'm evil maybe, but not really.
1. no you cant I think.
2. dont understand
3. You need some consistency. Your protoss will warp in, while your gorge will also warp in.
4. I feel that a total conversion would fit the marines more.
<!--QuoteBegin--xexe^+Apr 28 2003, 03:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (xexe^ @ Apr 28 2003, 03:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it isnt the ppolys that make the detail it is the skinner <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i know this...
i'm just saying, most modelers spend polys on things that could have been skinned...whoever takes up this project (i might myself if nobody else does) please make sure you watch what your modeling.... and keep it to a minimum
if it wasn't for a stupid error...we would have a marine model, that counts up to 420 polygons (pre-optimization)
Look, who cares about a theme. I mean, it wont really show up on your screen. Models are for PERSONAL customization. Mix and match if you want. God... If it doesnt fit, dont use it. Simple. key word is <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>PERSONAL</span>
By the way, in Ghost they have a new protoss unit, the defiler or some ****, and hes got this kick *** ranged weapon which is like a long range version of the zealots blade.
i like Pvt. hudson's idea - changing the marines to protoss would actually fit in the game...
i would even be happy to do the buildings, but i don't have 3dsmax, and never modelled for half life, only done a 150hour course in computer modelling at school where i got best in the state <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
so yeah i'll model if i can, but i need someone to help me to get started - tell me exactly what i need...
<!--QuoteBegin--NecromanZer+Apr 28 2003, 07:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NecromanZer @ Apr 28 2003, 07:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> only done a 150hour course in computer modelling at school where i got best in the state <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> oh only 150 hours. Well in that case u suck...what happened to the other people in the state that you are so-called "best" in? did they DIE.. or did you lessen the competion. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> jp man what did you model with .. i mean whats the point of a modelling class if u didn't model??
3ds max 4 (at school) and truespace 4 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
we had to make short animations - i did an introduction for a game like warcraft III, building up the suspense and stuff, but then used the stupidest "bad creatures" ever. if i've got the video i'll show you some screens. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
note - i got my **** hacked like 2 weeks before it was due and had to almost start from scratch, and it was right in the middle of exams so it was like 200000x crapper than it should have been, yet i still won ahaahahaaha
anyway, during the middle of the year i made a short animation with matrix bullet effects but they reckoned that violence is bad. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
ok ive **** around for ages, i can't work out how to take screenshots of movies, print screen puts the movie viewer in as some code and it will save as a blank screen instead of whatevers there <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
thats because the alpha channel of the movie viewer is blcoking print screens. Get the old Media Viewer (player whatever its called)program and use it to play any video you want and pause it while its playing. Then open Windows Media Player and play the video you want to screen capture. You can pause it where u want to take the pic and then use PS or PSP to edit at your will.
E/ I found an easier way.. check this out: <a href='http://www.lukesvideo.com/faq.html' target='_blank'>http://www.lukesvideo.com/faq.html</a>
here you go then (bear in mind quick job <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) and truespace sucks
well then lets go wid the marine idea but ehre is a few things we have to change
1)The voice sounds like request sounds and such
2)most sprites for some protoss weapons
3)all buildings (possible to make the infit potals have a warp sought of thing appear when a player spawns just to make it feel like a real protoss team)
4)Plyer models need to be one unit fromm the protoss team (which suxs coz u need them all to be a real protoss conversion
So as u can see it is to much wprk to put protoss in as marines because 1-u wont have all da protoss units but u can have more than one with alien team and 2-that every little deatail of marines will be wiped out and replaced and in my eyes way to much work so we need to debate on this more mayabe we should start another topic or something so we can continue this deabte
And Delarosa plz take this up coz these guys are to busy arguing about it fits marines beter or it fits aliens better so it wont get done. AND I HAVE SED IT ONCE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN THINGS DONT HAVE TO FIT FFS OK PEOPLE NOTHING HAS TO FIT THIS GAME ISNT STAARCRAFT WE ARE JUST INTRODUCING MODELS FROM SC OK
i dunno - the whole idea of the protoss is the clean green look - they are the evolved ones, the watchers, not the infesting goo slimy bacterial aliens......
i say use em as marines, if i had 3dsmax4 at home i'd do it or milkshape is that what u use? someone let me know so i can start (ill get 3ds max next month when dl limit starts again)
<!--QuoteBegin--NecromanZer+Apr 29 2003, 12:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NecromanZer @ Apr 29 2003, 12:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i dunno - the whole idea of the protoss is the clean green look - they are the evolved ones, the watchers, not the infesting goo slimy bacterial aliens......
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeha true but like i said in a other post we can change dat to mechanic **** or something i dont know but changing to marines is to much work plus we lose out on alot of ther protoss units by putting them on a team limited to 2 different creatures but looks like know one listens to me and actually thinks about the topic. Ok spo people plz think about what ur digging ur self into aliens is a quick and easy conversion that can be god and make a total differnt story line and marines long boring and will dye down after a while...
I think this idea sucks. It's just not going to work. Zealot for fade? But what would you substitute for the acid rocket? The modeller will HAVE to deal with that. Answer that question WELL and you might get a taker. I say might because some modellers don't want to have to deal with all the little kiddies moaning and groaning over how a zealot is holding a gun or something else their undeveloped minds can conjure. Nobody wants to receive negative criticism for their work, especially when they made it as perfect as perfect could be. You catch my drift?
ok people i am starting a new topic for a request on the marines <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Ill give it a go as aliens after reading your post it made more sence. Ill try and do the zealot model and chuck some **** skin i made on it. And the warp portal would be good. Ill even try to do that for buildings. Because there are animations for building but it would be realy hard but ive seen techniques to do it and i will try. But im not doing the whole thing.
here is the new post lol it has quite and interesting pic about the terran and protoss check it out <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=30673&st=0&' target='_blank'>The new protoss marine post here</a>
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1)All the green and alien stuff that is on the walls can it be changed to make it like Metal or Protoss stuff <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> coz i dont have a clue
2)As this game is set in the future. well cant this be set in the Starcraft future revolutionize the world of Starccraft by making that the terrans alligance was broken with Protoss and now fight against, both knowing how they fight and what they do it is perfect
3)They dont have to hatch out of eggs u can just use a warp portal as they do in the actual game
4) Think about it people this is a total conversion it changes the whole of the ns world making the people who did this legends gods in there own way, changing from disgusting un-intellegent little floor crawlers to advance. intellegent beings <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
So just think of what othe people will think when they see that the story of ns is changed to a good old grudge between to advance races <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
-xexe^
1. no you cant I think.
2. dont understand
3. You need some consistency. Your protoss will warp in, while your gorge will also warp in.
4. I feel that a total conversion would fit the marines more.
marines :]
i know this...
i'm just saying, most modelers spend polys on things that could have been skinned...whoever takes up this project (i might myself if nobody else does) please make sure you watch what your modeling.... and keep it to a minimum
if it wasn't for a stupid error...we would have a marine model, that counts up to 420 polygons (pre-optimization)
If it doesnt fit, dont use it. Simple.
key word is <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>PERSONAL</span>
i would even be happy to do the buildings, but i don't have 3dsmax, and never modelled for half life, only done a 150hour course in computer modelling at school where i got best in the state <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
so yeah i'll model if i can, but i need someone to help me to get started - tell me exactly what i need...
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oh only 150 hours. Well in that case u suck...what happened to the other people in the state that you are so-called "best" in? did they DIE.. or did you lessen the competion. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> jp man what did you model with .. i mean whats the point of a modelling class if u didn't model??
we had to make short animations - i did an introduction for a game like warcraft III, building up the suspense and stuff, but then used the stupidest "bad creatures" ever. if i've got the video i'll show you some screens. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
note - i got my **** hacked like 2 weeks before it was due and had to almost start from scratch, and it was right in the middle of exams so it was like 200000x crapper than it should have been, yet i still won ahaahahaaha
anyway, during the middle of the year i made a short animation with matrix bullet effects but they reckoned that violence is bad. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
ok ive **** around for ages, i can't work out how to take screenshots of movies, print screen puts the movie viewer in as some code and it will save as a blank screen instead of whatevers there <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
E/ I found an easier way.. check this out: <a href='http://www.lukesvideo.com/faq.html' target='_blank'>http://www.lukesvideo.com/faq.html</a>
Use Tools/ Options / Performance to find hardware
1)The voice sounds like request sounds and such
2)most sprites for some protoss weapons
3)all buildings (possible to make the infit potals have a warp sought of thing appear when a player spawns just to make it feel like a real protoss team)
4)Plyer models need to be one unit fromm the protoss team (which suxs coz u need them all to be a real protoss conversion
So as u can see it is to much wprk to put protoss in as marines because 1-u wont have all da protoss units but u can have more than one with alien team and 2-that every little deatail of marines will be wiped out and replaced and in my eyes way to much work so we need to debate on this more mayabe we should start another topic or something so we can continue this deabte
i say use em as marines, if i had 3dsmax4 at home i'd do it or milkshape is that what u use? someone let me know so i can start (ill get 3ds max next month when dl limit starts again)
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Yeha true but like i said in a other post we can change dat to mechanic **** or something i dont know but changing to marines is to much work plus we lose out on alot of ther protoss units by putting them on a team limited to 2 different creatures but looks like know one listens to me and actually thinks about the topic.
Ok spo people plz think about what ur digging ur self into aliens is a quick and easy conversion that can be god and make a total differnt story line and marines long boring and will dye down after a while...
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=30673&st=0&' target='_blank'>The new protoss marine post here</a>