Can Someone

101st_Pfc_Snake101st_Pfc_Snake Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14791Members, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">teach me to model???</div> i was woundering wats it take to model for ns??? wat programs wat stuff? cause i really am interested in modelling for ns...cause i see all these request's and no modeller's for em...so im thinking i want to atleast give modeling a try <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=20223&st=30' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...9&t=20223&st=30</a>

    Please, always read <b>all</b> pinned topics to any sub forum.
  • NightCrawlerzNightCrawlerz Join Date: 2003-04-18 Member: 15609Members
    read the modeling 101 sticky post. use milk shape. its easy. jump right in. and to make your own faces you click vertices then place 3, then click faces tool and click on each dot once and you get a pretty face.
  • 101st_Pfc_Snake101st_Pfc_Snake Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14791Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    ALSO PUT IT THIS WAY... I DONT GO TO SCHOOL ANYMORE CAUSE I DROPPED OUT MEANING I WOULD HAVE ALOT AAAALLLLLOOOOTTTTT OF TIME TO MODEL... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • 101st_Pfc_Snake101st_Pfc_Snake Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14791Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    AAAAAAAAAHHHH READING!!! I CANT STAND READING!!! DO I REALLY HAVE TO READ ALL THIS CRAP?!?!? CAUSE IF SO ITS GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME!!!! lol ya anywhom plz dear god af modeling plz tell me i dont have to read all that stuff...anywhom got milkshape...played around with it made a sphere a box and a cylinder **** around with it...learning...now um...is there any way any at all someone could just give me some quick details on modelling so i can atleast do some half assed modelling WITHOUT all that reading...cause i mean my god that is going to take me waaaaaayyyyyy to long to read...anywhom give me some quick tips and hints...and quickly tell me some do's and donts and the rest i can learn...but once more for good measure's YUK TO ALL THAT READING!!! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RoadMasterRoadMaster Join Date: 2002-06-01 Member: 718Members
    this thread = comedy gold... I'm sorry.... it just IS <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Remember kids... be cool, stay in school <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    /me slaps RoadMaster with a rasher measurer.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    the do-and-donts of modeling
    --------------------------------------
    do read

    don't use capslock
  • MelajoMelajo Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15171Members
    Dropped out...your friggin IDIOT!

    Modelling does involve several 1000 hours of reading. If you were smart, you would've stayed in school. Modelling isnt a job for a school drop out who doesnt like to read. Now get your **** back to school.
  • g3ng3n Join Date: 2003-03-14 Member: 14498Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--101st_Pfc_Snake+Apr 29 2003, 11:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (101st_Pfc_Snake @ Apr 29 2003, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->YUK TO ALL THAT READING!!! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    .... I wonder why you dropped out of school. and now you expect to be able to do modeling without reading any vitale information in turtorials ??
    good luck !


    Can we please stop all these pointless topic posts.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    huh

    stay in school....
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    edited April 2003
    If you're <b>that</b> serious, fewl, you'd stay in school. I mean commerical wise, companies only accept applicants with degrees. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GazaarGazaar Join Date: 2002-03-31 Member: 366Banned
    Yeah seriously..making it through grade school is the first step to anything.
  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    edited April 2003
    Ahhaahahaaahaahahahahahahahah!

    "Can you guys teach me how to model with 0 effort provided by me?"

    I doubt you'd even be willing to model even after you've learned.

    "It takes too much time to model"

    Programming has been a hobby of mine for a long time. I have a collection of books that I've paid for and read. They fill up my bookshelf and some can be over 500 pages long and costing upwards of 60 bucks. You get 0 sympathy from me, because you're too lazy to get off your bum.

    Heh heh. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SkinnYSkinnY Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7500Members
    hey.... i dropped out of school to.. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> though... i want to learn.. that is why i dropped out... they wanted me to learn photoshop... !!! i know photoshop !!! not going to get up at 5:45 every morning to learn stuff i know <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> anyways, read the faq, and pinned and so on...
  • haPihaPi Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--101st_Pfc_Snake+Apr 29 2003, 11:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (101st_Pfc_Snake @ Apr 29 2003, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ALSO PUT IT THIS WAY... I DONT GO TO SCHOOL ANYMORE CAUSE I DROPPED OUT MEANING I WOULD HAVE ALOT AAAALLLLLOOOOTTTTT OF TIME TO MODEL... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    listen kids.. school is cool.. if you look at this guy.. professional employers ask to see his records..

    *denied* <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    yes

    *D E N I E D* <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    school is cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    dropping out of school is like playing ns with no mouse <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    get back in school u fOOL...

    read the top forums to see tips for modelling.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    There is no quick or easy way to learn to model. I would say it takes at least a weekend of READING (yes, the "r" word) to even begin to comprehend what's involved... and after that, the models you produce will be exactly as good as the amount of time you put into them.

    Not to flame, but merely to be a concerned, rational adult... stay in school. That goes for anyone. And to you, Snake, I'd really suggest seeing a psychologist. It sounds to me like you have difficulty focusing on things and achieving goals that you set for yourself, or that others give you. Talk to your parents, or a counselor, or something. And go back to school. You'll thank yourself in ten years when you have a job you don't despise.
  • MalambisBZMalambisBZ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--haPi+Apr 29 2003, 10:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (haPi @ Apr 29 2003, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> school is cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, it's not. But it's required if you want to get a high paying job.
  • NottinghamNottingham Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10002Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--g3n+Apr 29 2003, 11:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (g3n @ Apr 29 2003, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--101st_Pfc_Snake+Apr 29 2003, 11:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (101st_Pfc_Snake @ Apr 29 2003, 11:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->YUK TO ALL THAT READING!!! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    .... I wonder why you dropped out of school. and now you expect to be able to do modeling without reading any vitale information in turtorials ??
    good luck !


    Can we please stop all these pointless topic posts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have only read one crappy tutorial but I can model fairly well!

    Would need to read some more anyway....

    Try different stuff and learn by your mistakes... or whatever it is old people say.
  • CrouchingHamsterCrouchingHamster Join Date: 2002-08-17 Member: 1181Members
    Back to school with you. Or at least part time local college, or nightclasses or adult learning, whatever is applicable.

    Reading is important. No reading = no learning from books, no workin through tutorials, no ability to rtfm. Doesn't matter how bright you are, a lack of reading skills makes almost <i>everything</i> harder than it needs to be.

    Practical skills are vital in any area, but reading a book on the subject is usually a great help too.

    Perhaps you're mechanically minded? Gonna be a helluva lot easier to fix that car if you can read the Haynes manual.

    Into cooking? Again, while you <i>can</i> wing it, far easier with a recipe to follow..

    Maybe you like sports? Gonna help to read books on tactics, theory, nutrition, proper warmups and techniques for injury prevention.

    Great thing about books is they tend to be written by people who know more about the subject than you. You can normally benefit from their years of experience and research, without making the same stupid mistakes they had to.

    Trust me on this one.

    Back to school.
  • blue2kblue2k Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4025Members
    well i did pop in here to offer some assistance to you man, but if your obviously not prepared to help yourself by reading pertinant information then im afraid your a lost cause. (that is if you manage to read this far into your thread, it is <b>page2</b> u know?)
  • ZanidZanid Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15158Members
    edited April 2003
    ok. anyway, moving away from flaming each other...

    modeling is not the hard part. theres hundreds of people you probably know that can modle, its a matter of sticking polygons together and then poking them with a stick. anyone can do that. the hard part is aligning it with the HL engine and getting your model turend into something HL likes. this is where a lot of people fall short. I still cant figure out how to animate and complie correctly.

    it would be great if you people would actually put out viable information when asked a question instead of linking to the stickey

    and in his defense, i read that damn post 9 times and still can't figure out how to animate stuff, skinning can be showed to my by a friend but casual 3dsM modelres that just make things like tres and boats for fun cant show you how to turn things into HL models.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    One of the best resources I've found for animating models is the modeling documentation included in the HL SDK. It's complicated, it's messy, but it's necessary.
  • CyborgguineapigCyborgguineapig Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3233Members
    Hmm, I'm a modeler with 4 1/2 years behind my belt at 3D apps and I still don't understand many things. If i got more regular sleep I could better understand what I read. Its taken my 4 years to get good, modeling doesn't just come too you. I'm a bad writer but a good reader and you "have" to read in order to model. You may have to spend days on end reading just to get something simple done with modeling. I'm talking professional wise as I don't know too much about modeling for games. If I could put my modeling skills into gaming than I could be a force to be reckoned with but I can't understand the "alien" talk behind game modeling procedures. Therefore I am currently dedicated to learning game modeling and it involves a hell of a lot of reading. But its paying off.
  • MalambisBZMalambisBZ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9559Members
    edited April 2003
    A question I can't find an answer to:

    How do you get just plain NS arms to put on your gun? Is there an easier way than decompiling the v_lmg model and deleting the gun from the hands?
  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    No. Delete the gun, slap in your new gun design. Assign the gun to the hands skeleton, and reanimate if necessary.
  • PariahPariah Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10049Members
    well taking this topic back to the first page...i tried to learn to model once too...but im one of those people that cant learn by reading a book...or looking at diagrams...if somone tells me or shows me ill catch on extremely fast...but this being the internet its kinda hard...so until i find somone near me that models i probobly wont be able to...this guy is prolly the same way....i bet he slept in class and did great on tests...cuz i know i did
  • 101st_Pfc_Snake101st_Pfc_Snake Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14791Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    i aint going bak to that prison...also some harsh post's guys sheesh...im enlisting in the military so i really dont need school...im good with a rifle...military will give me all i need...food water a house and a mid paying job...i never will go back...i would rather die then go back...i hate those kids so much...i hate them i hate them i hate them i hate them...god do i hate them...as for the reading part...my god im a good reader but i have to reread things 4 or 5 times to understand it...i learn better from monkey see monkey do... ex i see a person load a gun...i now know how to load that gun...sounds dumb but its how i learn...trial and error...i like to be fast and efficient and im slow reader...i have already played around with some stuff and learned a little...sheesh i hate school its a prison for me...even the food is like prison food...and those kids!!! GOD I HATE THEM SO FREAKIN MUCH!!! always tempting me pushing me...thats y im out...thats y i dont wanna go back...and if i have to read that its going to take me a very long time to learn and by then ns will be old and i will be one **** off customer lol...unless modelling is universal from game to game...then i would be fine...but i dont want ur sympathy...no one has ever givein me sympathy...meh oh well if u dont wanna help then dont...the choice is urs...(obviously)...anywhom i gotta go and break something now...lol...
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    ahh, we used to do that to kids at our school, until they looked at us and said "columbine"



    but that held a little special meaning for us, we were only 50 miles away... a little closer to home than most of the country.
  • 101st_Pfc_Snake101st_Pfc_Snake Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14791Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    i already am seeing a psych eval person...the truth is i didnt drop out...i was pulled out...u see knowing as much hand to hand and weapons layout that i know make's me a dangerous person...school shootings is wat they were worried about...so they told me to leave and i thanked them for it...im already on meds...although i hate them and they taste like crap lol...and yes im a very violent person...and yes i learn from beeing shown and yes i do good on tests without studying...all that info came from experience rather then studying...but ya say hello to me...well hell u already know so much about me u might as well know my name...its shawn...im a lil psycho that can snap a kneck like a twig and am a hazard to society...so they cast me away from them...
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    sad to say, you sound like my best friend from elementary school, ADHD, Asphurgers, ADD, and 3 others i can't really remember...


    35 pills a day... as mature as a 10 year old (8 years behind...makes for one hell of a fun time somedays)
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