Better Connection, Same Old Lag

DaK_mAnIakDaK_mAnIak Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11811Members
in Tech Support
<div class="IPBDescription">DSL hasn't improved my lag</div> I got DSL today, and reinstalled NS so my confige would come up with the correct settings. The only problem is I am still hovering at about 300-400 ping. It is a 700something download 100something upload. I dont' remember. Specs:
XPHome
512ram
60Gig
Althon1700
GeForce 2

If theres anything else you might need to know about my comp just say so. I can't figure out why my ping isn't getting any better.
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  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    have you tried rate 7500?

    Read also <a href='http://www.geekboys.org/articles.php' target='_blank'>http://www.geekboys.org/articles.php</a>
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    Ok there is a common mis-conception that bandwidth is related to your connection speed. So heres some definitions, followed by an explination.

    Bandwidth - this is the amount of data that can be sent down your connection per second. It's like the width of a river, the wider the river the more water can flow at any one time.

    Connection Speed - this is the time it takes for data to be sent through a unit length of "wirering". This is like the speed a river flows out, with a steeper river the water will flow faster.

    So what this means is that DSL, which uses standard phone cables, while being able to provide greater bandwidth, can not increase the speed of your connection (the speed of electricity down a copper wire) (actually about 3 inches an hour, but that doesnt apply here <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->) Anyway with a digical optical connection, the data can be sent at the speed of light (actually cause of all the curves in the optical fibers its about 1/3 the speed of light, eitherway its very fast). So you will only get a reduction in ping by upgrading your connection to one which uses some form of optical transmission.
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  • SeraphSeraph Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15382Members, Constellation
    Also, you might want to think about a new graphics card, is it DDR? Also, do you know how many fps you are running at? If nothing else works, find a better server <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jabba The Hunt+May 1 2003, 04:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jabba The Hunt @ May 1 2003, 04:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actually about 3 inches an hour <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't you mean like 3 inches a sec ?
    hehe
    Anyway I got DSL and I get pings of like 20 so DSL DOES improve it
    And Seraph, FPS has nothing to do with ping
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  • VadakillVadakill The Almighty BSO Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 373Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited May 2003
    Change your client settings to the following. To do this, go into a game, open the console by hitting the "~" key and type:

    cl_cmdrate 30
    cl_updaterate 30
    rate 6000

    I have DSL at home, and cable at my dorm. Those settings work flawlessly for both. The other question is, are you sure you are connecting to a server that isn't lagging in the first place? With NS 1.04 games with over 20-24 people will tax the CPU of the server which shows up as lag. Don't go by what the scoreboard tells you, type net_graph 1 in the console to get the real ping of the connection.
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  • DaK_mAnIakDaK_mAnIak Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11811Members
    I have DDR ram, my graphics card is semi old but works fine. As for FPS, i usually run at about 100fps but I got that even when I was runny my 56/k. Ill try these and post back here.

    Jabba, very informative. Do you work with computers proffesionally?
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jower+May 1 2003, 05:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jower @ May 1 2003, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jabba The Hunt+May 1 2003, 04:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jabba The Hunt @ May 1 2003, 04:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actually about 3 inches an hour <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't you mean like 3 inches a sec ?
    hehe
    Anyway I got DSL and I get pings of like 20 so DSL DOES improve it
    And Seraph, FPS has nothing to do with ping <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No that rate at which the electrons move is incredibly slow, they just push all of the electrons in front of them.

    heres the proof - (theres loads of other sites with this just search for "speed of electricity).

    <a href='http://www.amasci.com/miscon/speed.html' target='_blank'>http://www.amasci.com/miscon/speed.html</a>

    Your gettting pings of 20 because the server is near by, or you are close to a relay that changes over to an optical line.
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jabba The Hunt+May 2 2003, 09:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jabba The Hunt @ May 2 2003, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No that rate at which the electrons move is incredibly slow <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So what you mean is that to move the thousands of inches to the server it would take like 2 months ?
    hehe
    I KNOW my connection aint THAT slow...
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    No thats just the speed of the electrons movement.

    What happens is each electron pushes of each other electron (-/- replusion), this effect travels very quickly.

    Electricity is very much like a tube full of water, when u add more water, water comes out the other end almost instantly.
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Uuhm
    But then that would be the stuff I sent 4 years ago...
    hehe
    Silly
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    You either dont understand or are trying to make a joke. I'm not going to explain it again.
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  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Meanie
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  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    i get you jabba <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Electrical Engineering & microcomputing student <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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