Graphics card?

BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">I'm thinking of upgrading</div>I currently have a 3d Prophet 2 Ultra 64 (GeForce 2)

and am looking at upgrading to a GeForce 3 or 4

I know that the morpheus Card for the GeForce 3 is the most kick ### put out, but I'm wondering what's the best card for the GeForce 4? I've heard the Xtacy (or however its spelled) chipset is supposed to be badassed, but I haven't seen any comparisons to other GeForce 4s... any suggestions? BTW, my budget is $350...
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  • SmokeMastaSmokeMasta Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 430Members
    get a Geforce4 Ti
    not the MX becouse that is just a overclocked gf1

    with ur buget ur prolly able to buy the Gf4 Ti 4200 or the 4400

    both cards are exelent cards
    check www.madonion.com to see how much faster your pc is with certain 3d cards
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  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    YEa... but... I'm wondering about card makers...

    see. the morpheus GeForce 3 card has the same benchmarks as one of the GeForce 4 cards (I think it's the MX by hercules) which shows that the board manufacturer matters... I'm wondering who makes the best GeForce 4 card out there and if it's in my budget, if it's not... then I'll probably get the morpheus GeForce 3 card
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    I built my new machine about 3 months ago and I convinced myself to buy a Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 128mg DDR.  I haven't had one problem with it.  Only cost me $200 too.  Gainward promotes a guaranteed overclocking software that is real easy to manipulate.  Here's a link to the site where I bought all my stuff - <a href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1387&DEPA=1" target="_blank">Gainward Cards</a>

    BTW, NEWEGG has pretty good service imho.  Was a very easy process ordering my stuff.
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  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    My advice, if you're looking for a cheapish card, would be to wait for the Geforce4 Ti4200 series start hitting the shelfs. Check out www.anandtech.com for card reviews.

    It should be priced around $220.

    On the other hand, you can grab a PNY Geforce4 Ti4600 for around $355. (That's what I just bought.)

    (Note, I am from the UK and so currency conversions are not entirely accurate, but are rough estimates.)

    Basically, if you've got the cash, you'll want a GF4 Ti4200 or upwards. Do NOT get a GF4 MX as they suck. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    As a matter of fact, the 4200 did already hit shelves - I'm sitting in front of a PC with one.

    Cost me about 250 €, works like a dream.
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  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    4200s rule. The 4600 has *that* much more power though, but you've got to decide if its worth splashing out the extra $100 or so.

    I'd definately go for a GF4 instead of a GF3 though. They have a much better processing system, and twice the speed for pixel shaders. (The funky technology that'll make extremely awesome graphics in games to come, eg, water which refracts light and ripples realisticly.)

    Also, with the GF4 4200 at such a low price, you can't NOT get it. Try and get a 128Mb version though, if you want to run at higher resolutions.
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  • BiomechanoidBiomechanoid Join Date: 2002-02-12 Member: 203Members
    which 4600 is better thou?

    PNY? Xtcay? some other brand? that's what I'm trying to drive at. there are noticable differences between cards that use the same chip set, but I can only find the actual benchmarks for the Ti4600 using the Xtacy card, and am looking for other cards using the same chipset.

    Merk: do you have the benchmarks for your PNY?
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Forget GeForce.

    Banish it from your mind.

    Now click this link: <a href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/parhelia512/" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/parhelia512/</a>

    Make sure you look at the triplehead montor: <a href="http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/parhelia512/technology/triplehead.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.matrox.com/mga....ead.cfm</a>

    Words fail me.

    --Scythe--
    <a href="mailto:the_only_scythe@subdimension.com">the_only_scythe@subdimension.com</a>
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  • Hand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_AgainHand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_Again Join Date: 2002-02-07 Member: 178Members
    I was about to suggest a Matrox Parhelia, but Scythe beat me to it. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

    I've got various Matrox cards (including two in my main PC) and I've always been very impressed with them. I was worrying about having to switch to nVidia to be able to play stuff like Halo and Doom 3, but then Matrox answered my prayers... <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

    <b>30-bit colour. Multiple 3D-accelerated monitors. Oodles of visual quality enhancements. Drool.</b>
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  • Jace101Jace101 Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 343Members
    Hey while your out there buying a 3D Card pick me one up whil your at it. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    I used a g200 and g400 in the past, tho their D3D drivers are excellent (better than the nvidia ones)the openGL drivers really suck. Hope they get that right now d:)
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  • MoleculorMoleculor Namer-of-Bob Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 9Members
    Do the Matrox have pixel shaders? I -need- pixel shaders for Morrowind.
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  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    the parhelia sure has Molec, check out the  <a href="http://www.digit-life.com/articles/matroxparhelia512/index.html" target="_blank">stats</a>
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  • Hand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_AgainHand_Me_The_Gun_And_Ask_Me_Again Join Date: 2002-02-07 Member: 178Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->I used a g200 and g400 in the past, tho their D3D drivers are excellent (better than the nvidia ones)the openGL drivers really suck. Hope they get that right now d:)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The initial OpenGL drivers were of somewhat dubious quality, but they've finally sorted them out. Runs Hammer absolutely perfectly. Shame it took a few years to do so. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

    From the information on the site, it looks like they're putting a lot of effort into OpenGL this time - triple-headed Quake 3, anyone?

    Of course, whether I can afford such a card is still something of a mystery. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->
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  • SmokeMastaSmokeMasta Join Date: 2002-04-13 Member: 430Members
    the Leadtek gf4 Ti are sweet <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
    about 3% faster than the Nvidia card
    and a big silver cooler on it <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->
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  • CrematorCremator Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 27Members
    anything by gainward, i recommend
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  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    Don't think so, Mole.

    nVidia rules all!
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  • MerkabaMerkaba Digital Harmony Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 22Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester
    Actually ignore my last statement - I have no idea.

    Really, who has 3 monitors? I sure as hell don't...
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