The Revolution - Transparency In Models.

Lazer · May 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Interesting new concept for hl mods.</div> <b><a href='http://t2k.neotech.cc/ns/tuts/tools/tools.shtml' target='_blank'>DOWNLOAD THE MODEL TRANSPARENCY DLLS HERE!</a></b>

Right now I'm waiting for Delarosa to finish downloading dod 1.0 so he can send me the new dlls but in the meantime look at this

<a href='http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php?doc=1043360861-70912800' target='_blank'>http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php?...360861-70912800</a>

Basically, dod 1.0 comes with updated dlls that allow transparency in half-life models. This means if your half-life is updated with the new dlls you can see transparent models in any mod. Once I get the new dlls I'll mess around with the effect and post an example for you guys. This should mean we can add things like the glass panel on the AvP welder!

SnO0Py · May 2003

Also, you have to have the new compiler. Just look in the modeling section of their forums, and also be sure to read the tutorials. And I don't know if it can have semi-transparency, its just used for poly reduction, by not having to accually make holes in the models themselves.

Jaeger · May 2003

Semi-transparency works in-game. It's called Additive. The color white shows up completely opaque, black is completely transparent. You can make a glass window by setting it somewhere in the middle, even include smudges.

Lazer · May 2003

Alright, here is an example I made. Yes I will release this welder, just gimme a little bit to perfect the window and make the ha version. I had some steam going off of it to show that sprites are rendered through the window too.

NightCrawlerz · May 2003

OMG SWEET....... making spyies in tfc transparent sounds cool to me.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Zyndrome · May 2003

From the Collective:

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7. Kratisto
Thu May 08, 2003 / 09:57am PDT

It seems that the DoD 1.0 installer updates sw.dll and hw.dll to new versions (the rendering part of the HL engine), so its true, the new models with individual texture render modes can be used in any mod.

I guess the next HL update, or CS 1.6, will also include these new dlls for the people who dont play DoD.
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Wonderful!! Anyone that has installed DoD v1.0 can have transparency in their models! Im gonna post this on a mappingwebsite (which I am staffmember on (crap english))

Lazer · May 2003

Once I get my server comp back I'll host the two new dll files needed to see transparency in models.

Commander · May 2003

Isn't there already transparency in Natural Selection with the aliens cloaking ability.

NecromanZer · May 2003

nope, thats a rendering effect

Commander · May 2003

Oh just shows my unknowingness of the Half-Life engine.

IceWolve · May 2003

The doom model and others would greatly benifit from this. You can now see the faces and not just the glass, oo the sc marines would look much kewler now, even with teh glass slided up a little more then half way it will look cool.

Maus · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IceWolve @ May 9 2003, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The doom model and others would greatly benifit from this. You can now see the faces and not just the glass, oo the sc marines would look much kewler now, even with teh glass slided up a little more then half way it will look cool. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Well, here's something I whipped up with my <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=27571&hl=heavy' target='_blank'>HA visor hack </a>(which I neither finished nor released) showing that it's not perfect by any means.

Ollj · May 2003

so only if i have dod1.0 installed i see transparency and if not i dont?
Then i see blue parts and no transparens-alpha?

Jaeger · May 2003

You don't HAVE to have DoD 1.0 installed.

You <b>do</b> need the updated hw.dll and sw.dll (that go in your Half-Life folder) that come with it.

Sid · May 2003

WAIT! This emans we can put downt he Visor on the SC Marine!!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

blue2k · May 2003

this is a useful addition to the ns modelling community, im sure the dod dev team didnt plan this coincidental use (maybe they did though?) but it does seem to apply to all hl mods. this should lead to some interesting models.

Ollj · May 2003

i still cant use studiomdl.exe <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>
howto?

coil · May 2003

If someone could post the two DLLs, attached to a post, that'd be fabulous. (:

Incidentally, what happens if you *don't* have the DLLs? How does the transparency show up - solid?

Delarosa · May 2003

I don't know coil...

<a href='http://t2k.neotech.cc/ns/tuts/tools/tools.shtml' target='_blank'>But You Have No Excuse</a>

coil · May 2003

You rock, Del.

Delarosa · May 2003

gotta keep true to what people have said:

"T2K, getting new ways to Pwn you everyday"

NecromanZer · May 2003

So, reading thru that tutorial, its not possible to make a half opaque red screen? as it will only be half opaque?

Delarosa · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NecromanZer @ May 10 2003, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> So, reading thru that tutorial, its not possible to make a half opaque red screen? as it will only be half opaque?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
checkerboard my boy....

one part of the checker being your transparent color... the other being the one you want it to apear....

my mad "ms paint Slillz" come in handy once in a while

Kenichi · May 2003

i would love to see some good use of that new particle engine 1.1.1.1 will have that dod will supposedly utalize once 1.1.1.1 is released.

Akalamanaia · May 2003

now somebody add transparency to the Alien Egg model and facehugger inside the model,would be cool <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> ,ooo now we can have transparent hive too.

IcELoRD-2010 · May 2003

And that the idea about having a helmet on in "first-person-view" is possible!

MalambisBZ · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IcELoRD-2010 @ May 10 2003, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And that the idea about having a helmet on in "first-person-view" is possible!  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yeah, this is a great day for HL. =p

Daza4 · May 2003

THIS IS GONNA HELP MY MOD ALOT!!

There is a god...... and it go's by the name of Valve

Ollj · May 2003

Wee I got it to work.
I was playing around with it and made this 3D landscape:
2 polygons and one bitmap per layer.
Looks much better in 3d.

Ollj · May 2003

simple reference model.
the height-map was created with terragen + "tone map" to convert the heightmap into 2 color images.

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//the qc file, yes its made out of a zerglimg model...

$modelname "zergling.mdl"
$cd ".\"
$cdtexture ".\"
$texrendermode "100.bmp" "masked"
$texrendermode "80.bmp" "masked"
$texrendermode "60.bmp" "masked"
$texrendermode "40.bmp" "masked"
$texrendermode "20.bmp" "masked"
$scale 1.0
$bbox 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
$cbox 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
$eyeposition 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
$body body "zergling"
$hbox 0 "Regroup02" -16.040001 -26.660000 -29.830000 15.860000 20.290001 28.750000
$sequence "idle" "idle" fps 30 loop ACT_IDLE 1
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Kaine · May 2003

.... can't wait to see what people do with this <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

The Revolution - Transparency In Models.

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