More 1.1 Speculation: Fade Ability

Dr_AwkwardDr_Awkward Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9395Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">What will it be???</div> I've seen some speculation that since the onos has lost its anti-jetpack ability (paralyse), and the lerk has lost its ability to bite flying marines, that the fade ability will be something to fill that void. Maybe a gluebomb? Or maybe a blink-and-attack combo ability to teleport up and smack those pesky JPers. Nailbiting and edge-of-your-seat suspense ensues! When will we find out the mystery ability? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

If anyone finds out anything for sure, put the info on this thread. We will love you long time.
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  • killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
    web?
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  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--killswitch1968+May 18 2003, 08:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (killswitch1968 @ May 18 2003, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->web?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The gorge has web already, and I doubt the fade would have it even if the gorge didn't.

    My speculation? A powerful attack possibly, simply to replace bile bomb, would be too simple, and would leave little reason to keep it secret. Personally, I hope it isn't more contraversial then Devour/Stomp, but it may very well be.

    1. Slash
    2. Blink
    3. Unknown
    4. Acid Rocket
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  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    They're giving the fade a flower power attack. It showers flowers everywhere in hopes that the marines will decide to be happy and hug trees!

    Seriously, this seems a bit pointless... It's like searching a haystack for something, but not knowing you're looking for a needle. Imagine how hard THAT would be.
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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I've been saying this for a long time - NS is missing a blunt wooden spoon, and v1.1 being such an obvious chance Flayra no doubt is going to give Fades the tremendous power of wooden spoonage.

    </funnymode>
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  • includeinclude aka RpTheHotrod Dallas, TX Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12027Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    Laughing Gas
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  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    Fade's third weapon is bullet time.
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    OK.... hehe... this is not MY idea, it's really Shadowics... *he mentioned this in one of our classes together... where... as you might gues.. all we talk about is NS... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> * Anyhow... Think: UT Bio Sludge Rifle..... It would fit the Fade...... the fade shots a bunch of sludge that explodes after a bit.. the longer you "charge" the sludge, the more energey it drains, and the larger the explosion.... it would be aperfect replacement for bile bom.. and imaging covering a marine in a bunch of goo, and then watching him explode! :-D totally fun! IT might not be 1/2 bad against Jp's either.... blob near them, and the explosin will hurt 'em... maybe knock them out of the sky?

    Flayra.... please insert opinion here <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • 0blique0blique Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16477Members
    My guess would be paralyze.

    Either that, or the 1.04 blink (ie. teleportation).
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My guess would be paralyze.

    Either that, or the 1.04 blink (ie. teleportation). <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I could see paralyze.... but I thought the 1.04 blink was taken out b/c of bugs... and why have 2 blinks? Doesn't make sense to me...

    Also, I thought Flayra was scripting somethign totally new..... can ne one confirm, or deny this?
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  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    ... return of... BABBLERS! OMG, teh Fade, it's sending its minions after us! Run away omg omg! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> That'd make the fade as powerful as he was in 1.01.
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    LMFAO!!! Haha.. what would the fade send out? Mini gorges? What about mini 1.04 gorges.. with the BABLER's ability <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Can u say multuplying? lmao!!
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  • Scottimus_PrimeScottimus_Prime Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15519Members
    I did read somewhere in this mass of threads that the 3rd fade ability was "Currently being coded by flayra". I'll post it as soon as i find it.
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  • AkinAkin Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16368Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spazmatic+May 18 2003, 08:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spazmatic @ May 18 2003, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They're giving the fade a flower power attack. It showers flowers everywhere in hopes that the marines will decide to be happy and hug trees!

    Seriously, this seems a bit pointless... It's like searching a haystack for something, but not knowing you're looking for a needle. Imagine how hard THAT would be.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    f**** I wanted lerks to get flower power, man!!! Yah, if they insist we get spore cloud, then make if flower cloud... make all those little flower sprites appear spinning around in circles...
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    How about a kind of homing missle projectile?
    Like that HL-bees.
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  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    edited May 2003
    Ollj: do you mean the hornet gun (or hive hand)?

    i want to see fades being able to disguise themselves as marines, then they run around with the squad and pick them off one by one.

    [/dreams]
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  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->f**** I wanted lerks to get flower power, man!!! Yah, if they insist we get spore cloud, then make if flower cloud... make all those little flower sprites appear spinning around in circles... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Shroom Cloud. 'Nuff said.
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  • StoneToadStoneToad Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4053Members, Constellation
    Anti-Grav <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Now you don't have to worry about getting up and down the elevator shafts w/o the old blink anymore.
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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited May 2003
    The new Fade weapon will be "alternative operating system."
    Since the Kharaa adapt on a fairly regular basis and already learned that marine nanites tend not to like bacteria (see "nano-gridlock"), they have adapted an ability to mess with the HUD in marine visors.

    The fade will make an underhanded toss of a big, computer-monitor shaped blob of bacteria. On successful impact with a marine, all the marine player will see for 30 seconds is a boot-up screen for Mac OS XCIIV or a Linux/Unix incomprehensible error message that ends in "Kernel Panic! Aiieee!"

    [edit]If you can't tell, the above was a joke. You've heard us playtester's say it before, you'll now hear it again: we have no idea what Flayra and the rest of the devs plan on amazing us with.
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Leech, a hp draining attack, or a powerful swipe, one that knocks a marine's weapon from his hands.
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  • I_of_The_EverlastingI_of_The_Everlasting Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16088Members
    Here is what I though would be awesome as the Fade's third ability. (posted in the suggestion forum)
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=32496' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=ST&f=5&t=32496</a>
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  • killswitchkillswitch Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13141Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infected Marine+May 19 2003, 03:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ May 19 2003, 03:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--killswitch1968+May 18 2003, 08:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (killswitch1968 @ May 18 2003, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->web?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The gorge has web already, and I doubt the fade would have it even if the gorge didn't.

    My speculation? A powerful attack possibly, simply to replace bile bomb, would be too simple, and would leave little reason to keep it secret. Personally, I hope it isn't more contraversial then Devour/Stomp, but it may very well be.

    1. Slash
    2. Blink
    3. Unknown
    4. Acid Rocket <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought the gorge lost web in 1.1, am i mistaken?
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  • An_Experienced_NewbieAn_Experienced_Newbie Join Date: 2002-12-22 Member: 11383Members
    edited May 2003
    My guess is that it would be "choke"

    The thing that shoots acid rockets would grab the marine and hold him in the air and the marine will gradually lose health until the fade dies or runs out of energy or the marine cuts the thing off (requires a knife ability that must be researched)

    The fade can not move or use other attacks, he may cancel the attack however to get away from a marine or to save a hive or something.

    <b>EDIT: </b>Choke would also stop when the marine dies.
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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--killswitch1968+May 19 2003, 08:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (killswitch1968 @ May 19 2003, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--killswitch1968+May 18 2003, 08:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (killswitch1968 @ May 18 2003, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->web?
    I thought the gorge lost web in 1.1, am i mistaken?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That you are. Web has merely been moved to a 3rd hive ability, rather than 2nd hive where it used to be. 2nd hive ability for gorge is bile bomb.
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  • AnavrinAnavrin Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1734Members
    edited May 2003
    What would be neat for a 2nd hive ability is a way to interact with marine corpses.

    Like Gloom's 4th alien class, the Guardian's infest ability on marine bodies. The body proceeds to act as a proximity bomb for any unlucky marines who pass by. It'd make things jumpier.

    Or how about take another Blizzard classic ability and allow the fade to gain health/armour from consuming a marine corpse?
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  • GhostfaceKillahGhostfaceKillah Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1438Members
    Bullet time, lol, and he can do one handed cartwheels while shooting acid rockets.
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  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--z.x. bogglestiensky+May 19 2003, 02:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (z.x. bogglestiensky @ May 19 2003, 02:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i want to see fades being able to disguise themselves as marines, then they run around with the squad and pick them off one by one.

    [/dreams] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You and me BOTH!
    Actually I would preffer a completly different class, but we can all still dream.

    <!--QuoteBegin--rap+May 19 2003, 10:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rap @ May 19 2003, 10:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think something along the lines of Scorpion from MK/Lichtors from WH40k would be a good idea for the fade. Lashes out with some extra long cartlidge on its back and yanks the marine forward, then proceeds to swipe him limb from limb...

    mmm, fun!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They are called Flesh Hooks, the best analogy I can think of is the Barnacle from Op4, you could grapple head crabs and drag them towards you (where the barnacle would eat them).
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  • SettlerSettler Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13504Members, Constellation
    the pull idea sounds awsome! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    though there might be some bugs with rines getting stuck in the ceiling..
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  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    edited May 2003
    Ever since it was announced that the fade would lose bilebomb I've been joking that its new weapon will be <b>/stuck</b>.

    Although, considering that ideally the classes will still match up to their names, the fades could do with some kind of cloaky thing, for example. Just something fadey.
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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14770Members
    I second antigrav. Think noclip, but you can't go through walls.
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  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bullet time, lol, and he can do one handed cartwheels while shooting acid rockets. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, yes. Max Payne: Khaara Edition.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I second antigrav.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And yet you didn't second Shroom Cloud? OBVIOUSLY you have no taste. *goes to visit the shroom closet* Mmm... NS... with shrooms.
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