Res Sucking?

FrictioNFrictioN Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7211Members
<div class="IPBDescription">... WTH does that mean exactly?</div> Yeh, i have been reading soo many discussions on Gorges and res sucking... how exactly does that work? is it like the old way of getting res but gorges get a higher res rate.... or do they sit on a resource point and suck somehow???... i'm sorta baffled by the concept! If someone doesnt mind clarifying it up for me, it would be appreciated! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • EatsEats Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1582Members
    it's like you stand on a node, hold use, and suck rps into your body.
  • FrictioNFrictioN Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7211Members
    So no-res points, no models for the aliens?? that sounds a bit unfair!
  • EatsEats Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1582Members
    edited May 2003
    you have to stand on a node.....a res node.....and aliens still build rts too......
  • FrictioNFrictioN Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7211Members
    and what about the rest of the alien team, how are they supposed to get res points, does the res the gorges suck up go into some sort of pool?
  • FrictioNFrictioN Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7211Members
    ok thanks! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EatsEats Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1582Members
    aliens have to build rts seperately for that. They do both.
  • GrubsnikGrubsnik Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16492Members
    Hmm, a short recap of Kharaa Ressource systems seems in order.
    <ul>
    <li>All Kharaa gain equal res from RTs (no more bonus for gorges).
    <li>Gorges have the ability to "suck" ressources at a ressourcepoint that doesnt have a RT on it.
    <li>All Kharaa can have store 100 res.
    <li>overflow res is no longer sent to the other Kharaa (not confirmed, could just be it never gets relevant since you can evolve into all Kharaa shapes even when you only have 1 hive so noone is going to have 100 res)
    <li>When "sucking" you gain res significantly faster for yourself than a normal RT will do(don't know the exact numbers...yet <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ). This leads some Playtesters to believe that in public games, selfish players will gorge to get enough res to go Onos or Fade fast (at the expense of the rest of the team).
    </ul>

    Hope this helps,
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Additionally, the more res a gorge has the slower he/she/it sucks <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RedmonkeyRedmonkey Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8052Members
    To me this is a great idea. Early gorge sucks a lot of res, builds RTs like crazy, team goes fade in five minutes, good game easy money marines!\ <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    On a side note, I heard that the marines are going to have a "straw". The commander will spawn these and the marines will be able to "suck" the resources from a resource node. The "sucking" will take energy as you won't be able to hold your breath for more than 10 seconds...
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    Bleh. Could you at least make the next joke funny please ?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Grubsnik+May 21 2003, 08:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grubsnik @ May 21 2003, 08:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmm, a short recap of Kharaa Ressource systems seems in order.
    <ul>
    <li>All Kharaa gain equal res from RTs (no more bonus for gorges).
    <li>Gorges have the ability to "suck" ressources at a ressourcepoint that doesnt have a RT on it.
    <li>All Kharaa can have store 100 res.
    <li>overflow res is no longer sent to the other Kharaa (not confirmed, could just be it never gets relevant since you can evolve into all Kharaa shapes even when you only have 1 hive so noone is going to have 100 res)
    <li>When "sucking" you gain res significantly faster for yourself than a normal RT will do(don't know the exact numbers...yet  <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ). This leads some Playtesters to believe that in public games, selfish players will gorge to get enough res to go Onos or Fade fast (at the expense of the rest of the team).
    </ul>

    Hope this helps,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I take issue with your last point. While it would be entirely possible to just suck on a node to go onos quickly, this wouldn't really hurt the team. As a gorge, he no longer takes away res from other ppl, so he wouldn't harm the team more than a skulk running around being useless.
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    Ah but if he is just sucking, he is not helping keep the marines out of a hive, he is not helping keep the marines contained, he is not capping res for the team, nor is he building a hive. Too many gorges just hanging off the nanite teet will be just as bad as multiple gorges in 1.04. At least a useless skulk can distract marines away from the hive. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    <!--QuoteBegin---_Phoenix_-+May 21 2003, 04:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-_Phoenix_- @ May 21 2003, 04:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bleh. Could you at least make the next joke funny please ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Noted. Bwahaha!
  • GrubsnikGrubsnik Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16492Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+May 21 2003, 09:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ May 21 2003, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I take issue with your last point. While it would be entirely possible to just suck on a node to go onos quickly, this wouldn't really hurt the team. As a gorge, he no longer takes away res from other ppl, so he wouldn't harm the team more than a skulk running around being useless. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well the problem is that this selfish player will most likely get slaughtered pretty fast by the marines since he is the only upgraded Kharaa. After that, he will go back and sit near this node again, doing it all over....

    The trick is, in order for him to be able to suck on the node without getting killed, it has to be somewhere safe, after that, he has to make sure no Noob gorge does something stupid like cap his onos-well. This in turn means that a perfectly secured node, doesn't get built... So even though he isn't hurting the Kharaa team directly, he is still keeping 1 res uncapped, so the rest of the team doesn't get HIS node. On top of that, he is only gorging to get enough res for his onos. Some of the more team-oriented Kharaa-players will probably keep a check on how many gorges are on the team and therefore now gorge since he is obviously saving up to go out and build a lot of chamber somewhere <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Bottom line is this... it probably won't affect the dedicated players who play with other experienced players, but in public games, it could seriously weaken the Kharaa in the start, where they are at their weakest (based on the beta-reports).
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