Another Concept Pistol Concept!

sheena_yanai

ive moved your ejection port a little bit more to the front.. i hope u see why <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

your trigger will go right into the magazine...you have to set him a bit more to the front-longer triggerway.. you will need a little bit longer trigger guard..
do you realize something? this concept gets more plausible with every improovement

SkinnY

if i lived near sheena, i would bug her all day, till i knew everything about guns <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->


gj sheena <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

Alright - I'll be right on that. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

I Can't get the grip right to go with the trigger. Then the trigger doesn't look right - expect the next "Update" to take a while... I'm somehwat of a perfectionist. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

SkinnY

btw Sid, if this model gets done, and skinmeshed i'll have a go at skinning it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

Sorry - I had to save it as Jpeg, because in .gif format, little "Rainbows" would appear.

Now - I'm not to happy witht his new trigger - I mean I don't mind moving it up so it WORKS - I just don't like the extra space that you need within the guard... So, hows this? It took an unusual amount of time to get everything lined up and whatnot.

Any suggestions or comments?
Would you like me to try and redo the trigger guard like the old one, but with some extra space within the guard...?

-Sid

Sid

<!--QuoteBegin--SkinnY+May 27 2003, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ May 27 2003, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> btw Sid, if this model gets done, and skinmeshed i'll have a go at skinning it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
WOW! Thanks Skinny! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

sheena_yanai

sure,its your pistol <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

Simple solution:

Sheena, would this work?

Sickle

sheena yanai your a friggen genious. you couldn't have explained it any better. lol reminds me of my gun freak dad. that's the only reason i like guns. cuz my dad started taking me shooting as soon as i could hold his smallest gun. lol he even cut the stock to make it fit me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

sheena_yanai

well well.. this is one seksay drastic plastic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

yep.. should work.. just draw a extractor behind the ejection port.. and maybe a safety switch..
oy boy.. very nice <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->


i think i should look for a new job.. the younger generation is comming


edit: OMG! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> the extra space behind the firing pin couldbe use for a burst fire mechanism..similar to the glock select.. omg... this lil goney kicks <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

1.) What does an extractor?
2.) What does it look like?
3.) Since this is the future, We'll have a "Push-Button" SMG mode. Hmm, perhaps an extended clip to go with it, aswell. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

Alright. Here's a very crude Safety switch above the trigger. Once I find out what an Extractor is, I'll add that. Stay tuned for the SMG version.

EDIT: See below.

Sid

It may help if I put up the picture, eh?

sheena_yanai

this little dood is the extractor.. a claw that fits into the cartridge-dish,that pulls the case out of the chamber..

SkinnY

<!--QuoteBegin--Sid+May 27 2003, 06:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ May 27 2003, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SkinnY+May 27 2003, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkinnY @ May 27 2003, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> btw Sid, if this model gets done, and skinmeshed i'll have a go at skinning it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
WOW! Thanks Skinny! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
np, i like to skin, i like anything that allows me to make graphical stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sid

Crude SMG Version with Push-Button Mode-Select (Full Auto-Semo Auto):

Sid

<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+May 27 2003, 06:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ May 27 2003, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> this little dood is the extractor.. a claw that fits into the cartridge-dish,that pulls the case out of the chamber.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow - I forgot to look on page 4! I'll get cracking on this, pronto!

Sid

Okay - Here's the crude Pistol with badly-drawn extractor and the end of the barrel sticking out:

Sid

And the updated SMG version with extremely crude Extractor:

DocterJ

i am not sure whether the smg version could be used in NS.

however, i think if you make a bigger conversion of it, it could be better. like an uzi spinoff of that gun.

i dont really think the switch between auto and semi is really necessary, because it cant be used, so you mine as well go for a full automatic mini uzi feel.

Night_Shade

Thought the pistol barrel should be longer. What do you think?

The short-barrel version looked to short to control well. Not that I shoot or anything.

The miniSMG version looks good, the pistol just didn't seem long enough.

sheena_yanai

it wasnt to short.. there are enough compact pistol designs out there with that configuration..

sheena_yanai

smaller..

sheena_yanai

smaaaaler...

sheena_yanai

smaaaaaaler...

Lipstick pistol

The KGB created the "Kiss of Death" -- a loaded gun that looked like tube of lipstick. This 4.5 mm single shot weapon easily could be hidden in a purse. This pistol was discovered during the Cold War at a border crossing into West Berlin.

Night_Shade

I can't see a lipstick pistol being used by the TSA. But i get your point <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

sheena_yanai

<!--QuoteBegin--Night Shade+May 27 2003, 08:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Night Shade @ May 27 2003, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can't see a lipstick pistol being used by the TSA. But i get your point <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> lol

you wont stop a onos for sure...

but maybe we gettin female player model..i could use this.. /me got a bag with hundrets of single shot lipsticks

DocterJ

this is off topic, but if you go to www.hkpro.com, go to hk world, then click on mp5 and scroll down you will find a version of the mp5 in side a suitcase. completel disguised and concealed. they have a few pics of them firing it.

its real coo, check it out.

sheena_yanai

i know that one <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> the better version contains a steyr TMP..
and another from koji with a "dropable" suitcase.. the grip turns into a ironsight..