Question About 1.1

CronosCronos Join Date: 2002-10-18 Member: 1542Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Yeah yeah, another 1.1 thread</div> I know that all the regs are sick of the 1.1 threads to one degree or another, but I have an important question that has to be asked.

Will the Ping Of Death still be in operation in 1.1?

I have searched, but found nothing conclusive on it. I might have missed it in the change logs, if so, I bow my head in stupidity and retract the question.

But it is an important question to ask nonetheless. Marines have become so dependent on PoD to do their dirty work for them it's just about intolerable.

Simply kill the hive, hear the ping and relax. If there is no ping, or it stops, hunt for the aliens hive which can be in only three locations on the entire map.

It essentially gives the marines an overpowered advantage over the aliens. Personally, I would like to see it removed and the marines have to hunt down aliens just like the old days.

Back when PoD was introduced, F4 was NOT an option. The entire team had to F4 to concede the round, and usually the lamers that camped in obscure vents would never F4 it. Now, only a few people need to F4 to concede the round, negating the original purpose of the PoD.

Removing PoD may reintroduce endgame laming, but so what? If the alien team gets sick of twiddling their thumbs (which they usually do when they lose) they can simply F4 it and begin a new round. And comms can always scanner sweep. It also allows the psycho gorge to return. I remember some good 1.00 games where the aliens came back from Zero hives to win the game in an epic match. I would like to see a return to that, when aliens could come back from no hives, even if for a loss it would reintroduce some of that fighting spirit that is now only relegated to camping on a DC farm from PoD...

In summation, PoD is a crutch for marines that are either inexperienced or are too lazy to kill the remaining aliens.

Comments

  • DoggDogg Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15063Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Back when PoD was introduced, F4 was NOT an option. The entire team had to F4 to concede the round, and usually the lamers that camped in obscure vents would never F4 it. Now, only a few people need to F4 to concede the round, negating the original purpose of the PoD.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Exactly.

    The purpose was to prevent "lame" gorgs/skulks from delaying the round... but then Flayra implemented a %-based F4 in addition to the ping and never dropped the ping. I'd like to see fun comeback games again (especially with the ability to cloak hives). The true lamers will be specced out by their team and the team will F4.
  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    In 1.04, the Ping Of Death is absent in Tournament Mode. I´d like to see it completely removed in 1.1 if not already done.
  • MoonMoon Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8873Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hellbilly+May 31 2003, 10:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hellbilly @ May 31 2003, 10:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In 1.04, the Ping Of Death is absent in Tournament Mode. I´d like to see it completely removed in 1.1 if not already done. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Agreed.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    Definitely sounds like it would work well with cloaked hives.
  • HellSpawnHellSpawn Join Date: 2003-05-17 Member: 16415Members
    the pod definetly needs to be removed
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    sensory in a come-back game would be vital.

    Down with the PoD and up with come-back games and Sensory!
  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    I agree especially now that hives are very weak...
  • JojoshuaJojoshua NS Guide Professor Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5233Members
    Yes, it is still in 1.1.

    However there is just a small chance you can pull the game back if it comes to that anyway. Its just the truth.

    Even with decreased time for hive construction to ..I think 2 mins, I think your only chance is to build the other 2 hives fast and try and hold them off from taking down 1 of them so that at least 1 hive has a chance to go up. This is also assuming there are 2 hives open, and they dont have motion, and they have an unexperienced comm.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    Once, we got the PoD going, and they all left (heavies) to search for me. I happened to be a gorge hidden amongst our d chambers, so I just put the hive back up. We still lost, but they had to wade through a horde of skulks again and take it down again (this time they grenade launchered me).
  • Skillzilla1Skillzilla1 Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16282Members
    PoD is annoying... Why do Aliens have PoD and Rines don't?
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    what is PoD? seriously, no joke. i really don't know. is the sector scanner sweep or what?
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Skillzilla_+Jun 1 2003, 12:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skillzilla_ @ Jun 1 2003, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PoD is annoying... Why do Aliens have PoD and Rines don't? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As far as the story of NS goes, aliens are supported by the bacteria. Without it, they slowly die off. However, I still think it should be gotten rid of. At the very least, get rid of the sound for the marines.

    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>[edit]fixed spelling error[/edit]</span>
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delta|Cpt.Terran+Jun 1 2003, 12:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delta|Cpt.Terran @ Jun 1 2003, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> what is PoD? seriously, no joke. i really don't know. is the sector scanner sweep or what? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    PoD=Ping of Death. This is for the aliens after they have no hives. There is the pinging noise, and all aliens quickly lose health, so it is impossible to live long without regen or being by d chambers
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    A tad off topic but still viable:

    In 1.04, the game ends if everyone dies and there is no hive, but there is a hive going up. Is this still in 1.1?

    I would elaborate but it's 5 in the morning, I need to go sleepy
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