Misc. Texture Questions

michaeltoe

<div class="IPBDescription">Should I just deal with it?</div> I've progressed quite a bit with my new map (which is a piece of trash, but we'll ignore that) but I've got two issues which I can't seem to work out.

- The first problem is something I noticed even official maps couldn't avoid, and it's when fence/catwalk type textures are placed <i>above</i> the area of gameplay. func_seethrough does not provide the same texture options that func_wall does, and thus there's no way to make it both seethrough and have the proper transparent sections. Even worse, if it's not seethrough, the comm can't drop anything below it. I noticed this problem outside gen in ns_caged, and a few other maps. Is this a HL engine limitation, or is there some way of getting around this?

My map has the problem in this hall;

<img src='http://peakman.virtualave.net/ns/ns_amalthea03.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

^^Notice the grate on the ceiling, for skulks

- The second problem has to do with doors, and the 'minimum light level' value. If I don't set the minimum light level, the sides of the doors are totally black when it opens. Yet, if I set the minimum light value to <i>anything</i> above 0, the door is totally lit. It doesn't matter what value I set, it's always much brighter than it should be. Obviously I'm doing something wrong, I'm just curious what...

More pics of my map that with pwnx0r joo... <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <a href='http://peakman.virtualave.net/ns/' target='_blank'>ns_amalthea</a>

watch_me_die

You can make it a func_illusionary with the "invisible from top down" flag checked, and place a clip brush over it to make it solid, the only problem is then skulks won't be able to climb on it.

Best solution is to steer away from complicated see through things at the moment <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

michaeltoe

If I used the {invisible texture on a solid rather than a clip brush along with that func_illusionary, do you think it would work?

Lazer

Func_wall, rednermode solid 255 with null as the top texture.

Wolv

<i>If I don't set the minimum light level, the sides of the doors are totally black when it opens. Yet, if I set the minimum light value to anything above 0, the door is totally lit. It doesn't matter what value I set, it's always much brighter than it should be.</i>

Use very low values (0.05 for example).

anty

As Wolv already said, you have to set a value between 0 and 1. If you use a value above 1 it will be totaly lit, as you said.

ChromeAngel

<a href='http://nsworld.ns-central.co.uk/mappingguide/appendix7.htm' target='_blank'>This Article</a> addreses the problem of the meshes on the ceiling.

Are your doors set up with the light blocking flag set? If not the door edges should be lit...

fo_sheezy_my_neezy

ChromeAngel = the man