Armory Humping

lolfighter

<div class="IPBDescription">What, precisely, is it?</div> We've all heard that armory humping is bad, that you are lame if you do it, that it sucks. But what precisely IS IT? The way I understand it is that you fill up on full ammo before moving out of base. Is that really so bad? More ammo means that you can stay shooting for longer time, which means you won't have to pester the comm. Isn't that a GOOD thing? Thoughts and explanations please.

BigMadSteve

Most of the time you don't live long enough to use all the ammo, rarely infact. It's seen as a waste of time, especially in desparate situations. I do 'armoury hump' at the start of the game though when I'm not really needed anywhere.

Red_Wizard

Armory humping is filling up on LMG/Pistol ammo. You rarely need more than two extra clips of each. Anything more is simple wasting time you could be spending killing aliens and helping the team. Note that this strategy is acceptable for weapons like the HMG and GL which are useful, and prevent the user from dying more often than the LMG. Armory humping with a welder is grounds for an immediate kickban.

kavasa

I sit there, hit use, and flip back and forth until my pistol is full. I full up my LMG if the game just started and I'm hoping to spawncamp for a bit. What really drives people up the wall is when you sit there and get armory at a time when it's <i>essential</i> that you be out on the front lines. So if a phase is going down, or an RT right outside base is getting hit, or whatever, and you wait until you're completely full up on ammo to step into the phase. That's true armorysex, in my opinion. Just getting some ammo - whatever, <i>I</i> tend to go through my ammo alot.

SoulSkorpion

Armoury humping, more specifically, is getting full ammo for all your weapons from the armoury <i>before doing anything else, no matter what</i>. In other words, even if the commander's screaming his lungs out into the voicecom to get through the #$%^# phase gate, if the marines refuse to do so until they have all 340 rounds they are armoury humping.

ThinG

In general don't hump if you have to PG or be somewhere quick or else you will lose a valuable position.

DO hump however when you are going undercover, sneaking around enemy lines, to set up a pg in a hive, because the comm dropping ammo makes a helluva loud sound ^_^

Cheers

Tonzak

Yes, my understanding of the derogative term "armory humping" is filling up at the armory at very unwise times. The first thing you should do when you spawn is not always to fill up your ammo. You might want to run out and put some bullets into an attacker.

You really should only be getting extra ammo if you find yourself running out of ammo doing the tasks you expect to do next. And, of course, if there's a phase gate network in place, it doesn't hurt to check out the locations before considering grabbing some ammo back at base.

Check things out and only get more ammo if you are sitting at base anyways or if you expect to be able to really use all of that ammo somewhere before being killed. Wasting time all adds up in these kinds of strategy games.

lolfighter

So, the phrase "armory humping" is "spending time on filling up your ammo when you really should phase over to that outpost under attack", right?

Zel

yep.

very few individuals on public servers survive to use a full load of ammo, but if the comm knows you can do that he wont yell at you for armory humping, unless of course a phasegate is going down and all you gotta do it step through ffs!

Zeus

I must admit i am a culprit of 'Armoury Humping' quite a lot. The thing is i <i>know</i> i don't<i> need</i> it really but usually i feel that once i've stood there and got a couple of clips i may as well stand for the extra couple of seconds to get full.

I need to train myself not to do this...

Brave_Ulysses

Getting a full clip doesn't matter if you have nothing else to do. I've lost count of how many times I've had to build things alone because other marines hump our armoury instead of helping me. And when I need to go through a pg to attack someone over there I rely on my comm to ammospam me when I need extra ammo - I don't bother filling up first.

lolfighter

Whenever I have the time I like to fill up on ammo. I find that I find much more effectively when I can waste a little ammo here and there to lay down covering fire (or take this or that chamber out at a distance - with full ammo you can take quite a chunk out of a WoL alone). And this way I don't need to pester the comm for ammo, he has enough on his hands anyway. But I also find it frustrating that people sometimes stock up on ammo when there's things in the base waiting to be built.

Tonzak

It's not just for phasing or building. Sometimes you really should run out of base ASAP and put your 50 into that fade and just respawn if it comes to that, or run over to whereever and try to help whoever save the whatever.

Church

Yeah, until you are experienced enough to knoe exactly when you need to haul ****, just don't waste time getting full ammo. Of course, once you know the tricks of refilling ammo, you can get full ammo in 5 seconds or less which really helps.

MonsieurEvil

<!--QuoteBegin--|ds|meatshield+Jun 8 2003, 06:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|ds|meatshield @ Jun 8 2003, 06:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Of course, once you know the tricks of refilling ammo, you can get full ammo in 5 seconds or less which really helps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Say goodbye to that in 1.1 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

lolfighter

<!--QuoteBegin--|ds|meatshield+Jun 8 2003, 12:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (|ds|meatshield @ Jun 8 2003, 12:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, until you are experienced enough to knoe exactly when you need to haul ****, just don't waste time getting full ammo. Of course, once you know the tricks of refilling ammo, you can get full ammo in 5 seconds or less which really helps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do I smell an exploit?

Church

pretty much, but literally everyone I've met who knows how does it. Baaaaaaaaaa

Zunni

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->pretty much, but literally everyone I've met who knows how does it.  Baaaaaaaaaa<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I used to, but I want to get used to not having this work in 1.1 so I've stopped..

J_D_W

i thought AH was camping on top of the armoury.. lol.

lolfighter

<!--QuoteBegin--J D W+Jun 10 2003, 05:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (J D W @ Jun 10 2003, 05:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i thought AH was camping on top of the armoury.. lol. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's the last-ditch gl defence, which is a viable strat. It never wins the game though, just delays the defeat.

PerfectionsFlaw

In short this is armory humping.

<img src='http://eden.isasecret.com/byrnt/armory%20lover%20(full%20version).jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Grendel

It's also worth noting that the more ammo you have, the slower you move. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->

The_Real_Quasar

<!--QuoteBegin--Grendel+Jul 11 2003, 12:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Jul 11 2003, 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's also worth noting that the more ammo you have, the slower you move. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? I've never noticed that.

a_civilian

<!--QuoteBegin--The Real Quasar+Jul 10 2003, 08:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (The Real Quasar @ Jul 10 2003, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Grendel+Jul 11 2003, 12:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Jul 11 2003, 12:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's also worth noting that the more ammo you have, the slower you move.  <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? I've never noticed that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have. It isn't very significant though.

Lucid

Nobody has mentioned a true armory hump yet. It includes all the above, but with EVERYONE doing it. Usually by the time you are done building the IP and armory and start to get ammo, the aliens have reached your base. Any decent marine team can slaughter the early alien rush but when they all have their backs turned getting ammo its lights out. If you see someone else getting ammo, cover them, wait til they are done, then get your ammo. Also you have to be freakin deaf to not hear an alien approachign the base. That should be a hint that you should dtop getting ammo and get ready to shoot.

Some marines are super stupid. I can recall commanding on bast and hearing a skulk comign to base. I yelled to the armory humper "incoming to base!" ... still humping... "he is on your head!" ... still humping... "he is biting you!" ... etc etc

gee gee

Majin

<!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jun 7 2003, 02:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jun 7 2003, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Getting a full clip doesn't matter if you have nothing else to do. I've lost count of how many times I've had to build things alone because other marines hump our armoury instead of helping me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That, right there is my biggest annoyance!
"WTH are you people filling up your LMG when no one is around and we have an observatory, a RT and an Arm Lab to be Built!"
GRRRRR!
Armory humping is something that pisses off the commander more than anyone else, because he sees an outpost going down and 5 marines who could save it are getting full clips!

I am always Yelling "Don't get full ammo, your only going to die after 2 clips any ways.. COME ONE!"

I really wish the dry humping would stop, This isn't <b>Clone High</b> and you're not <b>Ghandi</b>

SoulSkorpion

<!--QuoteBegin--Lucid+Jul 11 2003, 12:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lucid @ Jul 11 2003, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nobody has mentioned a true armory hump yet. It includes all the above, but with EVERYONE doing it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's probably an "armoury orgy".

Xzilen

Ugh, Armory humping=bad. Any new player reading this thread take note if you don't want to severly **** off your commander.

Umbraed_Monkey

I can forgive most cases of armory humpage it doesnt affect the game THAT much...but when its a combination of the above (THREE or more people COMPLETELY filling up as an outpost is going down just a PHASEGATE away). Grrrr...

ElvenThief

This is how my father put it:

There comes a time in a marines life, when you get stranded on remote locations without the comfort of a woman. So, naturally, young marines take a liking to what compels them to feel good. Most like the feel of a good clean armory against their skin.
Freshly built ones are the best because you were just pulled as reinforcements, and there's fresh nanites just bubbling over to give you sweet loving and a clip of ammo to boot. Not only that, but most marines are open about their humanity and can share the experience with other teammates, huddling in a tight circle of friendship.

And lastly, my buddy's last words before he died were: "Love that armory like it was a woman, but remember to take a break when your arse is being bitten."
R.I.P. TSA Corporal Joe Hakzor - Taken before his time by a skulk while making passionate love to an armory.

Comprox

Ok, this is going downhill, faster than a young whippersnapper could chug sunny d.