The New Magnum Gun (.50)

X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Well.... Why?</div> I don't know how long this thing has been around, i was coming back off a weekend trip earlier today and i was so bored in the car (5 hour car trip, WITH NO COMPUTER FOR FOUR DAYS ARRRRGHHH) that i began to read the paper. One of the little (pointless, really) articles was about the new Magnum, which (apparantly) is the most powerful handgun (revolver) in the world, able to kill an elephant in one shot. But, well, why? To my knowledge, the last magnum that was produced was powerful enough to kill a man virtualy where ever it hit. Why do you need anything more powerful than that? This is, in all honesty, just gonna be for the "Gangstas" (men who drive around in cars listening to D-12 and other assorted rap and R&B groups, shooting things that... well, did nothing really). I'm not critisising Smith & Wesson, i mean, they make guns, it's their job to come up with bigger and better ones. But this has virtualy no uses, the military doesn't really use revolvers any more, so the only people who are going to have them are gun collectors, who collect them because they are actualy into GUNS, not their effects, and mad, gun toting people with funny accents who shoot squirrels. Oh, and gangsta's. My basic question (if you hadnt picked it up) is, why? Why make it?

P.S how do they know it can kill an elephant? Shooting elephants is illegal. NAUGHTY SMITH & WESSON!

P.P.S i dont know how long this has been around, things that happen in america happen about 1 million years later in the U.K. we're just seeing this delightful film called "Wizzard Of Oz". Heard of it?

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  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    Last I checked DE's have always been .50's and you can't hit jack with a 9mm while moving in a car, and you can barely hit anything with a DE standing still and aiming, so I wouldn't worry abuot "ganstas" using them in drive-bys.

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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    They made it for the same reason in medieval england they came up with the longbow to replace the ordinary bow. It's jus the natural progression of technology moving things like this forward. It doesn't matter weather it serves much of a purpose it's jus the way things happen.
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    edited June 2003
    Able to down an elephant in one shot? Damn that's hard to believe. And yes I have seen the Wizard Of Oz. I loved it. It was the first ever colour movie, made in 1930 or 39. Remember in The Matrix when Cypher says: "Buckle your sealtbelt Dorothy, cos Kansa's goin bye bye"? He's referring to the Wizard Of Oz
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    i'm quoting this from "The Sun, Monday 9th Of June" (the sun, so you KNOW it's true)

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The new Magnum .50 is the most powerful revolver ever made - it can kill an elephant with a single shot.
    Already dubed the "gangsta gun" in America, there are dears it will be the weapon of choice for Brittish criminals.
    It makes the magnum .44, made famous by Clint Eastwood in the Dirty Harry movices, look like a cap gun.
    Priced at £600 (somewhere around $1300), the .50 weighs 5lb, is 15in long and holds five rounds for quick firing. Bullets are £3 (i dunno... 'bout $6.50 - $7.00) each.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I really have no idea what im on about with guns, i just know the business end is the end to point at them, and you pull the trigger (hopefuly in that order). If there are any faults, or if this is like, REALLY old news, it's the SUNS fault, not mine. lol
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jun 9 2003, 10:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jun 9 2003, 10:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They made it for the same reason in medieval england they came up with the longbow to replace the ordinary bow. It's jus the natural progression of technology moving things like this forward. It doesn't matter weather it serves much of a purpose it's jus the way things happen. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry for double posting (and sounding like a geek) the longbow had a reason. Normal bows pretty much bounced off knights armour (after a certain distance anyway) whereas a long bow could pierce straight through. But, say for instance the last magnum wasn't very powerful, i could see the point in the upgrade. But let's face it, the last magnum is one of the most famous guns in history. You get shot by it, you generaly go down. There's little that can stop it, so why make a new one? I dont know about america, but over here in good ole' england, we dont get many elephants rampaging around the streets, so we dont have the need for a gun like that. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I don't like The Sun. I'm only interested in the 3rd page and the back page.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jobabob+Jun 9 2003, 08:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jobabob @ Jun 9 2003, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not many people wear armour lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The army, for one, does.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Jun 10 2003, 01:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jun 10 2003, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jobabob+Jun 9 2003, 08:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jobabob @ Jun 9 2003, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not many people wear armour lol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The army, for one, does. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not over the face though.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--X_Stickman+Jun 9 2003, 04:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X_Stickman @ Jun 9 2003, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> able to kill an elephant in one shot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *phew* FINALLY something that can help me with all those wild elephants roaming the English countryside.
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--QuoteBegin--X_Stickman+Jun 9 2003, 03:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (X_Stickman @ Jun 9 2003, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I dont know about america, but over here in good ole' <b>england</b>, we dont get many elephants rampaging around the streets, so we dont have the need for a gun like that. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->*phew* FINALLY something that can help me with all those wild elephants roaming the <b>English</b> countryside. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Wuh?
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    Well actually its probably pointless because after shooting 1 shot I bet your wrist is going to hurt. My best guess is because of range, but if your gonna do that might as well and just get a rifle.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    If not be outright broken, depending on the load behind that 50.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jobabob+Jun 9 2003, 04:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jobabob @ Jun 9 2003, 04:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not many people wear armour lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    BTW: Kevlar is like 100x stronger than steel, yes? I don't know, heard it somewhere.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    Kevlar is stronger in differant ways. Think a soccer net. When a ball is kiscked into it, it gives a little but bounces the ball out. Kevlar is the same except it's wrapped much tighter. And Kevler does nothing agaisnt a wepon like a knife or something like that. And a wepon like this is good for people who like to hunt big game with pistols. I have an uncle who hunts oxen with large calibre pistols.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BadKarma+Jun 10 2003, 01:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 10 2003, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Kevlar is stronger in differant ways. Think a soccer net. When a ball is kiscked into it, it gives a little but bounces the ball out. Kevlar is the same except it's wrapped much tighter. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I should hope so! I would'nt fancy protecting myself against a hail of bullets with a soccer net!
  • DiscoDuckDiscoDuck Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12393Members
    Well just a wild guess here but what if it's so it can go thru armor plate or brick? Guy hiding behind a car? BAM! strait thru the car.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    A smaller calibre bullet can do the same. .22 hornet has a good bit of penetration, could go through a car.
  • James_H4xwellJames_H4xwell Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11518Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BadKarma+Jun 9 2003, 08:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 9 2003, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A smaller calibre bullet can do the same. .22 hornet has a good bit of penetration, could go through a car. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    know what else goes through a car? Take a small replacable C02 cartrage that you can buy for paintball guns. Screw it in and let all the C02 leak out. take about 40 bottlerockets and crack them open. Seperate the 3 different powders inside then pour them all in the c02 the same order they came out the bottlerocket from. Pack it down with a pin or something then put a fuse in. Put that JB well stuff around the fuse then light it. Put it in a pipe, aim it and something, and run THE FUG away. Lol onetime it worked so well the stupid thing went so high we couldnt even see it. When we aimed it at a junk car, it punched through most of it. Pretty funny. So uh yea.... powerful handgun.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the .50 weighs 5lb, is 15in long and holds five rounds for quick firing. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fast firing? Yea right.....
  • CatpokerCatpoker Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 816Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My basic question (if you hadnt picked it up) is, why? Why make it?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    why not?
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 1970-01-01 Member:
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jun 9 2003, 05:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jun 9 2003, 05:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They made it for the same reason in medieval england they came up with the longbow to replace the ordinary bow. It's jus the natural progression of technology moving things like this forward. It doesn't matter weather it serves much of a purpose it's jus the way things happen. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol dubers. indeed, it is the natural progression of technology... back in 1983! yay.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    So kevlar's got a higher tensile strength and torsional strength than steel, but less compressive?

    Oh, about this longbow business: medieval england was full of feudal lords fighting with each other all the time - perpetual warfare. There's good reason to improve your weapons if they're going to be used. The major reason why weapons companies today make bigger and better ways of killing people is because they want to stay in business. Isn't capitalism great?
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why make it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    One word: Compensation.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    /me buys the new gun, a box of bullets, and a plain ticket to Africa
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jay123+Jun 9 2003, 11:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jay123 @ Jun 9 2003, 11:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't like The Sun. I'm only interested in the 3rd page and the back page. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i have to agree with this man here.
  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    I think that why people would go out and buy an ungodly strong handgun for personal protection is that if you are going to shoot someone, you normaly shoot to kill. Its sad but true. If they are still alive, you can get sued and they can argue their case. Its more difficult for the dead to argue their case than the living.


    At least, thats the excuse I have heard from my various hick co-workers.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    edited June 2003
    oh I get it.

    To recap, those lords in englands had bows, but they couldn't go thru steel. Thus they invented the longbow. Fearing the crossbows, the english lords have imported elephants to stay in business, as they needed .50 magnums to kill them and they haven't been invented yet. So then Harry (typical english name) went to england and had a .44 and was famous. Nowadays, the kevlar protects the elephants (tradition) so the lords (the bad ones) had to invent a .50 to stay in business. First killed off the knights with steel armor, then they will kill the elephants with their new .50


    Yeah it all makes sense it's really simple actually. Perfect logic tbh

    edit: for information, harry was dirty because fighting elephants isn't a clean job
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Jun 9 2003, 06:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jun 9 2003, 06:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Jobabob+Jun 9 2003, 08:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jobabob @ Jun 9 2003, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> not many people wear armour lol <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The army, for one, does. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Acutaly more and more criminals are starting to wear body armour. Maybe not the full stuff like the north hollywood guys buts its becomming more common.

    Anyways. With this new technology may be TSA marines finaly have their long awaited "Onos Killer".
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    The later versions of the crossbow could go through armour - killing knights in one shot. thats why they were outlawed as a part of the Just war concept. mainly because the guys who thought the up rules for just war were very freindlyt with knights.
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jun 10 2003, 05:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 10 2003, 05:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why make it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    One word: Compensation. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If somebody can shoot a .50 caliber revolver they don't need to.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    please. its the wrong time of day for that sort of statement.
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