Music

DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
<div class="IPBDescription">and the meaning of life etc.</div> So I was thinking this whole music thing when it struck me; we can't decide what music we like. A little while back there was this thread about metallicas newest album. In that thread someone said that people who like metallicas newer songs, such as Unforgiven, are newsk00l-kids or so. However I realized that you can't choose what music you like. You can pretend that you don't like this and you like that but you really can't help yourself and order your brains to hate some song. For example who sane male over the age of 12 would actually say "Hey, N'sync has some nifty tunes". Nope, we pretend and yell "Omg, N'sync suxorz!"

We can roughly label music-listening people in to three category:
-People who like music and they listen to what they like, no matter what other people think - very rare
-People who like music A but they can't listen to it because it is commonly declared as "bad-music". On the other hand he doesn't like much music B, but he has to learn to listen to it because he wants to be part of the group and other people in that group listen to music B. It's all about imago - most of us belong at least partly to this group
-People who make listening to music some sort of music-political statement. For example: "This band used to make good music when they did it in their garage but because they nowadays want money for their work, I can't listen to their music because I don't want to support any greedy biatches" This is just fine with me, as long as the people belonging to this group actually say the reason why they don't buy or listen to some bands songs, instead of pretending not liking that particular bands music. Band doing mainstream music has <b>absolutely nothing</b> to do with your brains liking the music they make.

Most of us can't be exactly categorized but we are a combination of these three, however it's fairly easy to tell who is closest to which category. So next time you laugh at some one elses music taste, remember that he can't decide what music he likes or not. Though it's ok to laugh at pretenders <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

PS. I changed my avatar back. MonsE, I know you were two inches away from breaking but I just can't stand adult man crying. However, more Halle Berry can be found <a href='http://www.ananova.com/images/web/35426.jpg' target='_blank'>here</a>.

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  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    I listen to anything I like. I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of it.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    I've got Eminem, Linkin Park, Queens Of The Stonage, Charlotte Church, Lighthouse Family, Nickleback, System Of A Down, Tenacious D, Group X, Electric 6, Chuck Berry (he did the original "Johnny B. Goode, i got the back to the future version as well), daniel bedingfield, and then just various songs that i like. And Daft Punk and stereophonics. And Enigma. And Faithless. That's pretty much it. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited June 2003
    I just don't like mainstream music because at some point (after the first album usually) It stops being about pleasing your fans and starts being about pleasing your record label.

    And the problem with stuff like Eminem and N'sync is that it's all image no content. They are literarly marketed as a product not as musicians.

    By the way the meaning of life is a subjective colaberation of ideas juncted to form a system of beliefs on which individual's actions are based and then formed into some sort of routine used to structure every day activities around.
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 11 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 11 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And the problem with stuff like Eminem and N'sync is that it's all image no content. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perhaps you shold listen to Eminem out of this "hype" context. Definitely NOT no content.
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    Even mindless kiddie pop music can have its merits. Most of it's utter pap, but Britney's "One more time" song is a gem, for example.

    Anyone who says "I only listen to X kind of music" is seriously limiting their experience - there's wonderful music in every genre.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Some people are just not pleased by the sound of certain kinds of music. It's a very simple concept.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jun 11 2003, 03:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jun 11 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 11 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 11 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And the problem with stuff like Eminem and N'sync is that it's all image no content. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perhaps you shold listen to Eminem out of this "hype" context. Definitely NOT no content. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    heh, you do realize most of what he raps about isn't true right? He was spotted working at interscope by Dr. Dre who liked his look and had the idea of marketing a "white rapper" to suburbean teenagers. His lyrical content was a simple publicity stunt to get him recognition, worked don't you think?
  • AgentOrangeAgentOrange Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 11 2003, 03:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 11 2003, 03:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jun 11 2003, 03:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jun 11 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 11 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 11 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And the problem with stuff like Eminem and N'sync is that it's all image no content. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perhaps you shold listen to Eminem out of this "hype" context. Definitely NOT no content. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    heh, you do realize most of what he raps about isn't true right? He was spotted working at interscope by Dr. Dre who liked his look and had the idea of marketing a "white rapper" to suburbean teenagers. His lyrical content was a simple publicity stunt to get him recognition, worked don't you think? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Got any proof to back that up? From what I've heard (and I've got no proof to back it, but because I've heard several versions I can't just accept that what someone says is true) he was spotted by Dre performing @ a club or something like that. I don't care if his content is fake, he's got good flow and style. It's very original.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited June 2003
    My point was that mainstream music is produced entirely from a financial standpoint, and Eminem and N'sync being two of the biggest examples giving their marketing and financial success.

    I personally like Eminem for the same reasons you just stated but my point was that it's still very comercial and takes away frm the music, I would think the same about N'sync if I enjoyed their music I just don't happen to.

    I just don't think it's right that groups on big record labels are played in never-ending loops on radio stations and are constantly pimped out as the only music out there while an enormous amount of talent goes unheard because they aren't as marketable.
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jun 11 2003, 10:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jun 11 2003, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I listen to anything I like. I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ditto! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    One time it's classical, some other, heavy metal...
  • lady_lazaruslady_lazarus Join Date: 2003-06-02 Member: 16947Members
    i agree..just because music is manufactured and is set to fit certain stereotypes/images/whatever doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed- just distance yourself from all the media hype and listen to the songs and not what all the 'fashion' magazines are telling you to think. personally i listen to a wiiide wiiide range of stuff (from dodgy europop like alcazar through to stuff like slayer with loads of stuff in between) and ususally get the mick taken out of me from my copains as a result but i really don't care. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to listen to some jennifer lopez which will swiftly be followed by eric clapton \o/
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--RPG_Jssmfulhud+Jun 11 2003, 04:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RPG_Jssmfulhud @ Jun 11 2003, 04:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Brave Ulysses+Jun 11 2003, 10:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Brave Ulysses @ Jun 11 2003, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I listen to anything I like. I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ditto! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    One time it's classical, some other, heavy metal... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Despite differing instruments & textures those two genres contain a great deal of similarity. Much "tr00" Metal bears extreme Classical influence. But yeah I get your point. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    I have one Jewel and two Vitamin C CDs. Yeah. I'm a guy. No. I'm not ****.
  • BurrBurr Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9358Members
    I listen to something if

    A: It pumps me up
    B: IT makes me think
    C: I can drive fast and wrecklessly to it
  • mRWafflesmRWaffles Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4713Members
    Music for me has to have meaning. Most mainstream music is meaningless because they are bred for popular culture. Britney Spears is not lonely and Christina does not need to think she is beautiful. No that is not right.

    Chevelle
    Switchfoot
    Audio Adrenaline
    Trance and Techno of all kids
    Daft Punk
    Rob D.
    Hans Zimmerman

    Meaning and feeling baby.
  • LeetVegeTaLeetVegeTa Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14103Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burr+Jun 11 2003, 06:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burr @ Jun 11 2003, 06:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I listen to something if

    C: I can drive fast and wrecklessly to it <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    rofl i second that

    like .... rap
    i have no idea what theyre saying but the bass in rap music is crazy
    +i got new subs for christmas so it fits together...i listen to rap to shake the garage <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--1.1 changelog+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (1.1 changelog)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->O New siege sounds (now with more bass)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think im gonna end up playing ns in my car and spamming sieges too....
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I listen to anything with good drumming and has a sort of 'dance' rhythm (?!!) to it. Rap is downright annoying. It's like trance, but really bad trance. As in, the tune <i>never</i> changes. Listen to an Eminem song. The same tune plays over and over, and the guy just yells to it. He also uses curse words as a fill-in, so he can sing along with the tune (I don't owe you a mother-****ING thing, I'm not Mr. N'Sync...). That's very stupid.
    Trance is good, at least the tune changes, and it makes me a little tired and puts me to sleep.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited June 2003
    Well I have 9 gigs of music on my PC. Everything from Manson to Cher to the Beatles to Classical. Rap, scotish bag pipes, emo, country everything.

    While I have a great mix i must say that 65% of it is techno.
    mainly trance and vocal trance.

    Either way, I listen to what I like. People find it strange but so what. i admit I used to be part of Group B depending on where I live to an extent. But then again it was more be nice to the other people and let them listen to their own music. However i was always annoyed how people would cringe at my melodic and bassy trance while they went on talking about the nine inch nails or something, yea they are good and i have lots of stuff by them on my PC but still. Now I listen to what I like all the time and if someone doesnt like it. Too bad. I dont mock others peoples music tastes so i expect them to do the same for me.

    Also to those people who idolise a group them dump them for going "corporate" I say, as long as they make songs i like I dont really care if they are all the way corporate. If I like the tune Im gonna listen too it.

    Mainstream music I just listen too though. Techno and its 28 sub genres really get me going. Unlike mainstream music there is somethine for everyone and something from every nation and everyone.
    Yea there are some whites that do rap or blacks that do rock but not to be racist or anything. More blacks like rap then whites do more whites like Metalica then blacks. Just the way it is. Everyone of every race likes techno <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> We are a very diverse community.
  • Red_WizardRed_Wizard Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16241Members
    I listen to all sorts of stuff, I don't care who says what about it.

    Right now I'm big into techno, classical, and a band called Nightwish.
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