I Hate 56k.
<div class="IPBDescription">What am I to do?</div> I just feel like flaming....so..go eat pickles.
I HATE BEING 56k!!! Make it 24-26k, afterall, the highest connection I've ever got was 26,600 BPS. I've played games online since 5th grade, and I've used this **** **** connection for that long. Nothing is more annoying watching people play with 30-70 ping, then look at mines and its around 300-500. It's even more annoying listening to people call you "nubs" when you cant attack the hive because your ping goes up to 900, and your unable to move, and your FPS goes to a whopping 2FPS with a 200 dollar video card! Why can't big name companies just put DSL/Cable IN EVERY CITY/TOWN IN THE WORLD!!!...or just to me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . It's so damn fun playing on LAN with my friends, and having what you guys call a nomal ping. I can only imagine how much more addicting and fun NS (and all other games) would be if I had your connections. BUT WAIT, THERE IS SATELITE CONNECTION WHICH IS AS FAST AS CABLE! OMG "elite" h4xZ()Rz!1221341twentyninthousandandonemillion! Oh wait, whats that at the bottom of the page? NOTE* Not recommended for Gaming because we have no GOD DAMN UPLOAD! SWEET! The first game I ever bought for this computer, when it was "elite", was Tribes 2....50 dollars...pre-order. Holy shiznat, I was so excited! It was even more exciting when I played online and when I would fire, it would shoot almost 45 seconds later!!!! YEESS!!! I envy all of you low pingers. The End.
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I HATE BEING 56k!!! Make it 24-26k, afterall, the highest connection I've ever got was 26,600 BPS. I've played games online since 5th grade, and I've used this **** **** connection for that long. Nothing is more annoying watching people play with 30-70 ping, then look at mines and its around 300-500. It's even more annoying listening to people call you "nubs" when you cant attack the hive because your ping goes up to 900, and your unable to move, and your FPS goes to a whopping 2FPS with a 200 dollar video card! Why can't big name companies just put DSL/Cable IN EVERY CITY/TOWN IN THE WORLD!!!...or just to me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . It's so damn fun playing on LAN with my friends, and having what you guys call a nomal ping. I can only imagine how much more addicting and fun NS (and all other games) would be if I had your connections. BUT WAIT, THERE IS SATELITE CONNECTION WHICH IS AS FAST AS CABLE! OMG "elite" h4xZ()Rz!1221341twentyninthousandandonemillion! Oh wait, whats that at the bottom of the page? NOTE* Not recommended for Gaming because we have no GOD DAMN UPLOAD! SWEET! The first game I ever bought for this computer, when it was "elite", was Tribes 2....50 dollars...pre-order. Holy shiznat, I was so excited! It was even more exciting when I played online and when I would fire, it would shoot almost 45 seconds later!!!! YEESS!!! I envy all of you low pingers. The End.
**Flaming Completed** <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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(sorry, i HAD to)
Wow that was very dumb, now that I've reread it, so maybe I won't post it, but if I don't then the point of typeing this part will be lost as well, o dang. A quandary.
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No, you didn't. You're just trying to kill me. *dies testily just to prove his point*
But they ping worse than 56k. Around 700-800ms. (The distance they have to travel in space, The speed of light is too slow for gaming).
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No, I've heard that 2-way satilite is very fast, around cable.
The problem is that they cost around a T3.... Actually it's more expensive.
I HATE BEING 56k!!! Make it 24-26k, afterall, the highest connection I've ever got was 26,600 BPS. I've played games online since 5th grade, and I've used this **** **** connection for that long. Nothing is more annoying watching people play with 30-70 ping, then look at mines and its around 300-500. It's even more annoying listening to people call you "nubs" when you cant attack the hive because your ping goes up to 900, and your unable to move, and your FPS goes to a whopping 2FPS with a 200 dollar video card! Why can't big name companies just put DSL/Cable IN EVERY CITY/TOWN IN THE WORLD!!!...or just to me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . It's so damn fun playing on LAN with my friends, and having what you guys call a nomal ping. I can only imagine how much more addicting and fun NS (and all other games) would be if I had your connections. BUT WAIT, THERE IS SATELITE CONNECTION WHICH IS AS FAST AS CABLE! OMG "elite" h4xZ()Rz!1221341twentyninthousandandonemillion! Oh wait, whats that at the bottom of the page? NOTE* Not recommended for Gaming because we have no GOD DAMN UPLOAD! SWEET! The first game I ever bought for this computer, when it was "elite", was Tribes 2....50 dollars...pre-order. Holy shiznat, I was so excited! It was even more exciting when I played online and when I would fire, it would shoot almost 45 seconds later!!!! YEESS!!! I envy all of you low pingers. The End.
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I know exactly what youre going through. Im in an area with nothing availiable but satellite too. I connect at 31200 and therefore Im screwed as far as gaming. I cant tell ya how frustrating it is to go to a lan, own the **** outta everyone. Then come home and have some lil nub trick call you sh*t. Oh it doesnt end there either. How about the fact that due to client positioning, Im no where in the area i think I am. Skulks bite me from 6 ft away which makes dodging futile. I seen numerous damn times, where a skulk is biting thin air and a second later Im dead. Thin air, that is NOWHERE near me. Oh, and dont forget how it takes a second to even REGISTER A SHOT. Time and time again my kill will pop up while im RELOADING!! I SAID RELOADING.
And the most blatant proof that all you lpbs are idiots when you say "ping doesnt matter" One time playing NS, I killed a skulk rusing towards some mines at the beginning of a map. He dies and I start reloading. I finish reloadin, and suddenly just drop dead. Said the alien killed me with the mines. Id love to see any not use a non-lag excuse because this is proof that lowr ping = your shot registers first = I will lose time and time again. Anyways, all I can offer you is this config. Try it out because I just recently got up to 31k, I used to be on 28 or 26k. Just ignore the lpb's, cause most dont know sh*t. Like that idiot bringing up sat connection. Already knowing its worse than 56k. Oh gee thx half wit. And you shouldve known that other games are ping crappy for dialup. Even half life was before the non lag illusion we have now.
rate "2800" or lower depending on your connect speed
cl_cmdrate "22" or lower if you lag
cl_updaterate "18" or lower
cl_latency (negative half your ping to the server)
cl_rate "2800" or lower
cl_resend "1"
cl_cmdbackup "2"
voice_enable "0" yes, turn it off
fps_max "100"
fps_modem "25" or lower to adjust for bandwidth
ex_interp "0.1"
ex_correct "3" or 0
ex_maxinterp "0"
ex_extrapmax "2"
ex_maxerrordistance "64" or 0
cl_gaitestimation "1"
cl_pred_fraction "1"
cl_nolerp "0"
cl_nopred "0"
cl_pred_maxtime "256"
cl_pred_link "0"
cl_predict_players "1"
cl_upspeed "400"
cl_himodels "0"
r_drawentities "1.0"
gl_round_down "3"
gl_max_size "128"
gl_dither "0"
gl_keeptjunctions "0"
gl_ztrick "1"
gl_wateramp "0"
gl_playermip "2"
gl_cull "1"
gl_clear "1"
gl_lightholes "0"
r_mirroralpha "0"
cl_drawnames "0"
r_decals "0"
r_mmx "1"
loadas8bit "1"
gl_smoothmodels "0"
gl_wateramp "0"
r_dynamic "0"
r_mirroralpha "0"
cl_giblife "0"
cl_gibvelscale "0.0"
ati_subdiv "2.0"
ati_npatch "1.0"
r_bmodelhighfrac "0.0"
cl_gibcount "0"
cl_gibscale "0"
vid_d3d "0"
vid_wait "0"
scr_transparentui "1"
r_shadows "0"
mp_decals "0.000000"
cl_teamicons "1"
cl_detail "1"
cl_radar "0"
cl_maxdebris "0.000000"
cl_maxsmokepuffs "0.000000"
cl_maxripples "0.000000"
cl_maxbarrelsmoke "0.000000"
cl_maxshells "0.000000"
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mcache
Also, get newer drivers and init strings for your modem. What kinda modem are you on. Im on a pos lucent so Im twice as screwed. GL ...
But good luck find it
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BTW : I have an Aopen PM-56...I use the init string : AT+MS=V34...I still havnt found an Init string that works....ohwell. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
fps_max "100"
fps_modem "25" or lower to adjust for bandwidth
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fps_max 40
fps_modem 40
They need to be the same otherwise its pointless, the fps_max curbs how many frames per second are processed by your gfx card/monitor the fps_modem curbs how much is pushed through your modem, so if you set the graphics card setting higher your computer will be spending valuable processes trying to make the graphics better when you cant actually get anymore out of it.
And i've only just come off 56k onto ADSL so i'm not just some high and mighty LPBer talking out of his ****..i've been there man...I feel for you
And the most blatant proof that all you lpbs are idiots when you say "ping doesnt matter" One time playing NS, I killed a skulk rusing towards some mines at the beginning of a map. He dies and I start reloading. I finish reloadin, and suddenly just drop dead. Said the alien killed me with the mines. Id love to see any not use a non-lag excuse because this is proof that lowr ping = your shot registers first = I will lose time and time again. Anyways, all I can offer you is this config. Try it out because I just recently got up to 31k, I used to be on 28 or 26k. Just ignore the lpb's, cause most dont know sh*t. Like that idiot bringing up sat connection. Already knowing its worse than 56k. Oh gee thx half wit. And you shouldve known that other games are ping crappy for dialup. Even half life was before the non lag illusion we have now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I get that kinda stuff happening to me with my friggin DSL. It's not as bad, of course, but I have no friggin idea why my comp likes to act like my ping is in the 600s constantly when everyting that the game tells me indicates I'm getting a ping in the low one-hundreds. The thing that pisses me off more is the fact that whenever I ask people about this problem, they don't tell me they have no idea what is happening, they just plain don't respond. I've had this problem for about 1 1/2 years, and I've NEVER gotten a response from ANYONE about this problem when I have asked.
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BTW : I have an Aopen PM-56...I use the init string : AT+MS=V34...I still havnt found an Init string that works....ohwell. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
dual 56k modems - i'm pretty sure he means ISDN - which uses an extra telephone line - so it's 112k.
atm the dialup doesn't worry me cause i'm using onboard video until i buy a better video card (33.6k is a luxury compared to onboard video)
interestingly enough, my mobile phone does 43.2k/s internet, without tying up the phone line......
isn't ISDN 64k? (dual isdn here is like $400+/month, unlimited traffic adsl is cheaper)
-- Codeman
if it's 64k then it would mean it's 128k when both lines are used...
My advice: take dsl. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I remember when I was playing gloom about 2 years ago, I was using a 56k modem. For some reason, due to my location, the speed rarely got above 28800 baud. In essence, I was getting half the speed of a 56k modem. My ping would vary from 400-600. Yes, I actually played like this. Ping was significant. You had to shoot ahead of the enemy in order to kill. It is like shooting ducks. Shoot ahead of them, and by the time the pellets reach the distance, the ducks will be right in the sight.
After I got cable, that changed. My ping went from 400-600 to a dramatic change of 50-100. Took me a while to get used to that. I kept shooting ahead of the enemy, and my bullets would hit ahead of the enemy. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
They weren't supposed to do that! Took me about a couple months to really adjust fully to the low ping.
BTW if its any help i always turn off error correction in my modem settings to play reduces my lag to next to none but is kind of useless for browsing the net as it takes a 1k of ya bandwith
On another note ive never had to fire infront of the bad guys shoot them and they die, hehe anyone played mechwarrior 3? that was awfull for it, lag shooting was awfull beyond reason bad coding i guess.
Seriously though, they're probably ignoring you because they DON'T KNOW. It sucks, I know.
Allurhive, that "phenomenon" is client side hit prediction, its designed to make ISDN and up feel like a LAN game, so if you have a ping below 400 (I think its 400, it might be 300, I forget) then whatever you shoot gets hit, none of that "click and then wait 5 secs for the gun to shoot" or "shoot a guy point blank, crosshairs right on his head, and still miss" crap, the side effect being that sometimes you get wasted when you dodged someone's bullets because on thier computer you were a fraction of a second too slow.
But hey, at least someone tried to help me!
YAY FOR ME!
It will make you a better person, embrace it.
They require two phonelines, and connection to an isp that allows multiple connections per account (usually the 1p/minute accounts so you run up huge bills)
And if you get a hardware controlled 56k modem and connect to servers close to you with the proper tweaking you can get your ping down to 150.