Ns_castlewars

G-Fresh

<div class="IPBDescription">Autobuild?</div> I was playing on a server where the opposing marine commander would place structures and they would build themselves. All the aliens got really pi$$ed off because we killed everyone but commander, but he build an observatory in some corner of the map and activated a distress beacon. When we asked him how he was making his structures build themselves, he said that the process is described in the Ns_castlewars readme. Since i dont have that readme, i was wondering if anyone can confirm this.

p4Samwise

Wait... that map is even MORE marine-biased than I thought? *boggle*

Hayaat

:S i'm afraid i know nothing about ns_castlewars..

but with sv_cheats on.. and i think the command is 'bigdig' ... when a comm puts a structure down, it builds immediately.

i'd hate to accuse anyone of cheating though, so i'll see if i can find it.

Edit: <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> i dunno what to say.. went around, downloaded 2 versions of ns_castlewars, and didn't get a readme file.

Ollj

<!--QuoteBegin--Hayaat+Jun 22 2003, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hayaat @ Jun 22 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Edit: <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> i dunno what to say.. went around, downloaded 2 versions of ns_castlewars, and didn't get a readme file. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
muhaha he fooled 2 idiots.

that was just
sv_cheats 1
bigdig

spawnhive
giveres
killall
...
are nice too.

CobraChaos

<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> I know some maps the commander can build things right from the command chair with +use "E" or whatever use key is bound to.Also the com can open and close doors/raise n lower elevators which can be very handy at times.

I remember I was com onetime on bast and a fade kept opening n closing the door to engine hive making him stay there hehe.So that being said that tip or use can be very useful at times others it is not.

G-Fresh

Hmm Im pretty sure cheats werent enabled on the server. Ill give that +use trick a try next time i play castlewars on that server. Thanks a lot.

DEADscott

Anytime in anymap without cheats on:

If the commanders view is low enough, he may build from the com chair using the "use" button. In castlewars the huge walls have ledges on them. The highest ledge on either side is buildable from the comm chair.

But like I said, this will work in any map, just find a spot that is high enough.

Shadowics

If cheats were enabled you certainly would have noticed it. For one thing alien building would have built themselves very rapidly, even without the 'bigdig' cheat. I don't have a copy of castlewars but it seems likely that it was high enough that the commander could use +use and build it himself. I believe this is something they were fixing for 1.1 - disabling +use for the commander.

Ollj

thought that was fixed {DEAD}scott.

ElvenThief

Ollj: It's not fixed. I've seen it on ns_misslecommand_final3 too.
The commander just centers his screen to light the object up in a vector equivalent to if he had a crosshair. Hold use and it's built.

Infinitum

On top of that there's a few really NASTY spots that a commander can CC Build at on the official maps.

Carling

When i was testing my map on my server after i finished builden any thing from comm using above bug my gun would come on screen and i could shoot straight down from my view point. i could USE the armory to gain ammo then wizze about the map in command view and shoot the aliens lol. proberly cause my server is ns 0.00000000000001 or some thing tho lol.

NerdIII

Ha! I downloaded castlewars <b>5</b> times and did not get a readme. The other of this map is SheepMan though, so if someone knows him he/she can get evidence <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Ollj

You still get fooled by exploiters that call an old, lame and well known exploit a "map feature".
On most ververs you get kicked for builing outside game area.

Fina

If a Commander is close enough to the ground to build, would it be possible for him to be bit in the face by a Skulk?

MasterShake

There <b>is</b> a plugin that allows the commander to build structures when centered on his screen. Forget what it's called, but I don't really care. Gives marines a huge advantage on any map. That's what you probably saw on missle_command as the comm chair view is way too high to build "design flaw style." You need to be at about rine hieght if you want to be a comm who can build on a normal server, and the only place I can see that possible is on castlewars.