What Is The Best Gaming Computer I Can Buy?

ElectricSheepElectricSheep Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15716Members
<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->? Need to know what to buy and what better place to learn it than from the pros. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited June 2003
    Two suggestions, give us a price range and build your own. It's not nearly as hard as you think you save a ton and you get exactly what you want.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    the absoulte *best* would be a.. hmm..

    3.2GHz P4 running on an 800MHz mobo, along with as much ram as possible. a GfFX5900 ultra, and a striped raid array of scsi hard drives..

    of course that would run at LEAST 4000 bucks i'd say.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    build your own

    you will need a fast/large everything, so make sure you have a nice budget
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    404 I got some computer magazine that made a system almost exactly like that for about 3000. Lol still expensive, but cheaper that your estimate <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Jun 27 2003, 04:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jun 27 2003, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 404 I got some computer magazine that made a system almost exactly like that for about 3000. Lol still expensive, but cheaper that your estimate <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sry, i was talking out of my **** on the price.. just an estimate.

    Though it could be that much if you throw on say... a 21" flat panel monitor <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ElectricSheepElectricSheep Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15716Members
    edited June 2003
    Yeah I should have put more specifics.

    I'm looking for a FAST gaming computer with a good video card and monitor but it doesn't need that much memory.

    1000 to 2000 dollar range.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Geforce 4, 2ghz 512mb ram... Thats about 1000 - 2000?
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    i built a nice computer for 1500 a half a year ago... Just go to newegg and price a system.


    It's a 2.0GHz AMD, Ge Force ti4400, 512ram, 80GB hard drive, asus A7V8x.

    Just look around. Start up an excel sheet that auto calculates the bottom line and play around with it. You want a fast cpu, lots of ram, a higher end vid card (maybe a few steps down from top of the line) and a hard drive that's 7200RPM (or higher) and has a low seek time (think 8.5ms, i'd reccomend seagate)

    From there just play around with it.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    yup. now all you need are the few extra things like a psu, mobo, hdd, dvdrom, floopy drive. ya know, the minor stuff...
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Jun 27 2003, 04:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jun 27 2003, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> alienware <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    how about no?
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    edited June 2003
    Alienware have nice case's and are designed for gaming...


    <a href='http://www.alienware.com' target='_blank'>http://www.alienware.com</a> ?
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 04:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Alienware have nice case's and are designed for gaming...


    <a href='http://www.alienware.com' target='_blank'>http://www.alienware.com</a> ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no, no, and no. Don't go into the light people it's a trap. They will steal your soul, and your money.


    Run away!
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--SBV+Jun 27 2003, 04:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SBV @ Jun 27 2003, 04:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Geforce 4, 2ghz 512mb ram... Thats about 1000 - 2000? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Try about $400 for what you posted.

    Instead:

    3.0 GHz P4 800 MHz FSB - $400
    Decent i865 board with onboard SATA and dual channel DDR- $150
    2x 512 MB Corsair DDR400 - $125 each
    Radeon 9800 Pro 256 *edit* nvm *edit* - $500
    2x Maxtor or Seagate Barracuda 120 GB SATA drive - $170 each
    Antec True480 PSU - $100
    Tower case - $40
    A legit copy of Windows XP Professional - $200 (Upgrade)
    Case accessories (HS/F, Extra case fans, etc etc) - $60


    *edit*
    Just noticed you wanted a monitor too.
    Hmm... try the Hitachi CM721FB 19" FLAT-FACED CRT Monitor Short Neck (Black) - $270
    And add in a Lite-on CD-RW writer for $40 (you can get one at your local retail store)
    And if you want to use less system memory, get the GeForceFX 5900 ultra. Costs about $100 more than the radeon 9800 pro though.

    This system will run you about $2200 before tax and shipping.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Go to a local dealer, Alienware is for the riceboy n00bs.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    If you have a free weekend (well, 8-10 hours of free time any day) build your own computer. Much cheaper, and you get to verify that everything is running the way you want it (and you know what's in your system). 8-10 hours is a pessimistic estimate anyway, If everything goes smoothly it should take around 2-3 hours to put your hardware together. You just have to test if it's stable.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    please note that the other 5-8 hours are used when you install any microsoft product. you may get some late nights...
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Jun 27 2003, 05:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Jun 27 2003, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you have a free weekend (well, 8-10 hours of free time any day) build your own computer. Much cheaper, and you get to verify that everything is running the way you want it (and you know what's in your system). 8-10 hours is a pessimistic estimate anyway, If everything goes smoothly it should take around 2-3 hours to put your hardware together. You just have to test if it's stable. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mine took me about 4 hours with a fresh install of windowsXP pro.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Jun 27 2003, 05:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 27 2003, 05:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Jun 27 2003, 05:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Jun 27 2003, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you have a free weekend (well, 8-10 hours of free time any day) build your own computer.  Much cheaper, and you get to verify that everything is running the way you want it (and you know what's in your system).  8-10 hours is a pessimistic estimate anyway, If everything goes smoothly it should take around 2-3 hours to put your hardware together.  You just have to test if it's stable. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mine took me about 4 hours with a fresh install of windowsXP pro. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes...

    then you woke up
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--z.x. bogglestiensky+Jun 27 2003, 05:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (z.x. bogglestiensky @ Jun 27 2003, 05:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Jun 27 2003, 05:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 27 2003, 05:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Jun 27 2003, 05:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Jun 27 2003, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you have a free weekend (well, 8-10 hours of free time any day) build your own computer.  Much cheaper, and you get to verify that everything is running the way you want it (and you know what's in your system).  8-10 hours is a pessimistic estimate anyway, If everything goes smoothly it should take around 2-3 hours to put your hardware together.  You just have to test if it's stable. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    mine took me about 4 hours with a fresh install of windowsXP pro. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes...

    then you woke up <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    not really z.x. three comps built from the ground up in my house first one had windows 98 when it was built, other two had windows 2000. No real problems on install.

    Problems in general......couple catastropies I can think of in about 8 years.....but hey that's how it goes.
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ElectricSheep+Jun 27 2003, 10:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Jun 27 2003, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah I should have put more specifics.

    I'm looking for a FAST gaming computer with a good video card and monitor but it doesn't need that much memory.

    1000 to 2000 dollar range. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    maybe half what the guy who said $4000 would cost then <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    i know dr.d, i'm only joking. windows and other stuff usually goes on fresh without any problems
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2003
    If you use all fresh hardware, then it should only take 2-3 hours to put together your computer.

    If you're porting old hardware (especially old hard drives) over to your new computer, it'll take significantly longer (Format, partition before you install your OS, maybe format and partition again if you mess it up).

    Either way, it'll take another couple of hours to set up all your drivers, service packs/patches for your OS, and your applications.

    *edit*
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just look around. Start up an excel sheet that auto calculates the bottom line and play around with it. You want a fast cpu, lots of ram, a higher end vid card (maybe a few steps down from top of the line) and a hard drive that's 7200RPM (or higher) and has a low seek time (think 8.5ms, i'd reccomend seagate)
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Low seek time = ~6 ms

    If you don't want to go top-of-the-line on vid cards, the answer is definitely radeon 9700 pro. There is not a single nVidia product in the $200-400 price range that matches the 9700 pro. (Don't argue about it, because it's true.)
  • Lumberjack_WannabeLumberjack_Wannabe Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14404Members, Constellation
    edited June 2003
    Check out <a href='http://www.buyabs.com' target='_blank'>ABS</a>. They have a pretty good system within the 1,300-1,500 range (without a monitor, though). If all else fails, though, go with building your own.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you don't want to go top-of-the-line on vid cards, the answer is definitely radeon 9700 pro. There is not a single nVidia product in the $200-400 price range that matches the 9700 pro. (Don't argue about it, because it's true.)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Uhmmm... try <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-127-994&refer=pricewatch' target='_blank'>this</a>.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lumberjack Wannabe+Jun 27 2003, 06:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lumberjack Wannabe @ Jun 27 2003, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Check out <a href='http://www.buyabs.com' target='_blank'>ABS</a>. They have a pretty good system within the 1,300-1,500 range (without a monitor, though). If all else fails, though, go with building your own.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you don't want to go top-of-the-line on vid cards, the answer is definitely radeon 9700 pro. There is not a single nVidia product in the $200-400 price range that matches the 9700 pro. (Don't argue about it, because it's true.)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Uhmmm... try <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-127-994&refer=pricewatch' target='_blank'>this</a>. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    looked on that site...the price on their products aren't bad, but you can still get an equivalent system noticeably cheaper (~20-25%?) by building your own.

    And don't make me laugh at you for posting a link *edit* to *edit* the GFFX 5600 Ultra.

    *edit* for the uninformed, the 5600 underperforms the GeForce4 Ti4x00 line of cards. *edit*
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Leadtek just came out with a GFFX 5900 that goes for 380, not too bad.. and no dustbuster.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Jun 27 2003, 06:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jun 27 2003, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Leadtek just came out with a GFFX 5900 that goes for 380, not too bad.. and no dustbuster. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The 5900 never was a dustbuster, it's a very good card. the 5800/Ultra is what you're thinking of.
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    edited June 2003
    www.alienware.com

    (I am in no way n00bish for this, its just the guy who made this thread is obviously fairly n00bish in computer hardware, so this is a better suggestion)
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    I'd have to say Alienware. Mainly because their prices aren't too bad and the kit looks top notch.

    But, if you don't mind a bit of work, you can save a bit by building your own, and, as people have already said, you can get it just how you like it.

    Although one thing, all you people saying it'll take 3-4 hours (and upwards) to build a pc from scratch. Er, no it doesn't <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But then again, i've been building the damn things for about 5-6 years or so now. My best time for an entire strip-down and rebuild is about 25 minutes. But then add 40 minutes for windows to install.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jun 27 2003, 06:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jun 27 2003, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd have to say Alienware. Mainly because their prices aren't too bad and the kit looks top notch.

    But, if you don't mind a bit of work, you can save a bit by building your own, and, as people have already said, you can get it just how you like it.

    Although one thing, all you people saying it'll take 3-4 hours (and upwards) to build a pc from scratch. Er, no it doesn't <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> But then again, i've been building the damn things for about 5-6 years or so now. My best time for an entire strip-down and rebuild is about 25 minutes. But then add 40 minutes for windows to install. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First time you do it it'll take a while. Especially when the drivers are nuts (and you have to download new ones). Or like when you have to register Windows XP online.
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