Is It True?

Virus_com · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Leap...</div> Is it true that the amount of damage Leap inflicts is based upon your fps?

Elderwyrm · July 2003

Yes. As with other things like your build speed and jp thrust. A 100 fps leap can kill a heavy armour in 2 leaps.

Edit: Typo, seriously jump all over me for a simple typo, you knew what I ment.

a_civilian · July 2003

<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t=27435' target='_blank'>Yes</a>. (read the later pages of that thread)

pieceofsoap · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ Jun 30 2003, 11:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> A 100 fps lerk can kill a heavy armour in 2 leaps.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Is it only me, or is something wrong here...
Like for example, when did Lerks get leap?

Virus_com · July 2003

So if NSPlayer has an Alienware area 51 with dsl and i have my 733mhz p3 with 56k, he will do more damage per leap than me?

a_civilian · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Virus.com @ Jul 1 2003, 12:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>So if NSPlayer has an Alienware area 51 with dsl and i have my 733mhz p3 with 56k, he will do more damage per leap than me?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Yes. Players with higher framerates also build faster and get more thrust from jetpacks. This is getting fixed in 1.1 though.

Church · July 2003

depends. It depends on FPS, which is Frames Per Second. FPS is dependant on your monitor, refresh rates, and most importantly, your graphics card! A good card will get you a good fps usually.

homerx · July 2003

OMGZ LERK KILLS A HAEVY ARMER MARIEEN WITH 2 LEAPS!!!!!!!!1111

I CANT WAIT UNTIL 1.1 WHEN THIS IS IMPLEMENTED!!!!!11!!1

Virus_com · July 2003

I'm sorry, buts thats absolutely ridiculous. A player with a lower end computer should not have less damage than a player with a more powerful computer (its hard enough with all the lag already)

Is this a bug or what?

Major_Chrome · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Virus.com @ Jun 30 2003, 11:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'm sorry, buts thats absolutely ridiculous. A player with a lower end computer should not have less damage than a player with a more powerful computer (its hard enough with all the lag already)

Is this a bug or what?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Like they said, its being fixed in 1.1

Church · July 2003

I do not believe Flayra intended it to be this way. In 1.1 leap, building times, etc should not be FPS dependent anymore. You're right, it's not fair. Bu then, life isn't fair either. Flayra's working his butt off tho to try to get it as balanced as possible.

The Golen Rule: The one with the gold, rules.

Trevelyan · July 2003

must... put... down... check book...

gaaahhhh!!!

a_civilian · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Virus.com @ Jul 1 2003, 12:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'm sorry, buts thats absolutely ridiculous. A player with a lower end computer should not have less damage than a player with a more powerful computer (its hard enough with all the lag already)

Is this a bug or what?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yes, it is a bug.

NightCrawlerz · July 2003

hahahahha..... ive seen virus before.... its me m0o.Wertdagf from Quickfrag server. Yes i have 85 fps, and yes i get lots and lots of kills with leap. Heh, leap is fps dependant but if your fps are really that bad then you should save up 500 dollars of your allowance and buy a new comp. I could get 100 fps but i like vertical sync, plus i do just fine with 85. I even gave my old friend photon a run for his money as a sporing lerk. he got like 48 (30 of those were spore) and i got 36 (24 of those were leap). And yes it only takes 2 leaps to kill an HA, but remeber that you have to touch them for the entire duration of the 2 leaps, and not only that but its 2 seconds of point blank HMG fire. LOL and if you think leap is unfair just try to learn to master it! I make it look easy, but trust me it takes alot of practice and understanding of when leap damage starts how long it lasts and exactly how to control the actual leap and bend it to your will. Ive been playing a skulk ever since i started playing ns, not only that but i stay skulk the whole game. And yet agian if you want to see me im usualy on the quick frag server all day, and if i have the time and patience(sp) ill show you a few things or talk about technique.

Agkelos · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jul 1 2003, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hahahahha..... ive seen virus before.... its me m0o.Wertdagf from Quickfrag server. Yes i have 85 fps, and yes i get lots and lots of kills with leap. Heh, leap is fps dependant but if your fps are really that bad then you should save up 500 dollars of your allowance and buy a new comp. I could get 100 fps but i like vertical sync, plus i do just fine with 85. I even gave my old friend photon a run for his money as a sporing lerk. he got like 48 (30 of those were spore) and i got 36 (24 of those were leap). And yes it only takes 2 leaps to kill an HA, but remeber that you have to touch them for the entire duration of the 2 leaps, and not only that but its 2 seconds of point blank HMG fire. LOL and if you think leap is unfair just try to learn to master it! I make it look easy, but trust me it takes alot of practice and understanding of when leap damage starts how long it lasts and exactly how to control the actual leap and bend it to your will. Ive been playing a skulk ever since i started playing ns, not only that but i stay skulk the whole game. And yet agian if you want to see me im usualy on the quick frag server all day, and if i have the time and patience(sp) ill show you a few things or talk about technique.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
OMG YOU ARE SO LEET!!!!111!! PLZ TEACH ME GRAND MASTER HOW TO SKULK LIKE YOU DO!!!! CUZ YOU ARE SO COOL AND SO LEET!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

JesusC · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jul 1 2003, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Heh, leap is fps dependant but if your fps are really that bad then you should save up 500 dollars of your allowance and buy a new comp.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
*blink*

Some people have to have these things called jobs and these other things called apartments and dorms and broad band bills that cost money. Not everyone can go to their parents for a brand new pc the second little Timmy next door has more leet megahertz than him.

Kids these days.

*/blink*

Cereal_KillR · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Agkelos @ Jul 1 2003, 08:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jul 1 2003, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hahahahha..... ive seen virus before.... its me m0o.Wertdagf from Quickfrag server. Yes i have 85 fps, and yes i get lots and lots of kills with leap. Heh, leap is fps dependant but if your fps are really that bad then you should save up 500 dollars of your allowance and buy a new comp. I could get 100 fps but i like vertical sync, plus i do just fine with 85. I even gave my old friend photon a run for his money as a sporing lerk. he got like 48 (30 of those were spore) and i got 36 (24 of those were leap). And yes it only takes 2 leaps to kill an HA, but remeber that you have to touch them for the entire duration of the 2 leaps, and not only that but its 2 seconds of point blank HMG fire. LOL and if you think leap is unfair just try to learn to master it! I make it look easy, but trust me it takes alot of practice and understanding of when leap damage starts how long it lasts and exactly how to control the actual leap and bend it to your will. Ive been playing a skulk ever since i started playing ns, not only that but i stay skulk the whole game. And yet agian if you want to see me im usualy on the quick frag server all day, and if i have the time and patience(sp) ill show you a few things or talk about technique. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
OMG YOU ARE SO LEET!!!!111!! PLZ TEACH ME GRAND MASTER HOW TO SKULK LIKE YOU DO!!!! CUZ YOU ARE SO COOL AND SO LEET!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
not again....

TeddyBear · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WWJD]JesusC @ Jul 1 2003, 02:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jul 1 2003, 01:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Heh, leap is fps dependant but if your fps are really that bad then you should save up 500 dollars of your allowance and buy a new comp. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
*blink*

Some people have to have these things called jobs and these other things called apartments and dorms and broad band bills that cost money. Not everyone can go to their parents for a brand new pc the second little Timmy next door has more leet megahertz than him.

Kids these days.

*/blink*  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Very much agreed ... I have great pingtimes but horrible fps ... now the hpb's are laughing at me for crying out loud cause they get 7 zillion frames per millisecond and I should consider myself lucky if I get 35 fps :/

What bothers me more though is that people are **** because of the jp nerf that's finding it's way to decent servers (read servers that dont have admins that like "good" jetpacking) ... the game is meant to be played that way, you're not meant to stay in the air forever+1 ... I remember the first time I saw the jp/hmg rush (I don't know maybe I was playing on the wrong servers but I didnt see it until 1.03 in a clanwar) ... and it was such shite, unbelievable lameness ... we had 2 hives, they could barely support 1 rt .... yet they won the game because they managed to equip 2 guys with jp's and hmgs and we went for rts and the hives instead of laming everything up (we figured as long as they had no res we could handle a few guys with hmgs) ... I'm gonna be so happy to see all the "leet jetpackers" having to learn it all over again while I actually get more fuel on a nerfed server then on a regular one <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> ... good times

meatball · July 2003

It is good that there's not going to be any more fps related things and stuff in 1.1.

ZiGGY · July 2003

well I get 40fps ish should still do some damage I just suck <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Reb · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>QUOTE (NightCrawler. @ Jul 1 2003, 01:27 AM)
hahahahha..... ive seen virus before.... its me m0o.Wertdagf from Quickfrag server. Yes i have 85 fps, and yes i get lots and lots of kills with leap. Heh, leap is fps dependant but if your fps are really that bad then you should save up 500 dollars of your allowance and buy a new comp. I could get 100 fps but i like vertical sync, plus i do just fine with 85. I even gave my old friend photon a run for his money as a sporing lerk. he got like 48 (30 of those were spore) and i got 36 (24 of those were leap). And yes it only takes 2 leaps to kill an HA, but remeber that you have to touch them for the entire duration of the 2 leaps, and not only that but its 2 seconds of point blank HMG fire. LOL and if you think leap is unfair just try to learn to master it! I make it look easy, but trust me it takes alot of practice and understanding of when leap damage starts how long it lasts and exactly how to control the actual leap and bend it to your will. Ive been playing a skulk ever since i started playing ns, not only that but i stay skulk the whole game. And yet agian if you want to see me im usualy on the quick frag server all day, and if i have the time and patience(sp) ill show you a few things or talk about technique. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I spend days on end simply *wishing* my skulking technique could be improved. I've always needed someone to show me the way, and lo, like a vision of holyness decending from the heavens, my prayer has finally been answered.

Oh almighty one, please share with us humble newbies the secret to your power. Show us the errors of our ways and lead us out of sin. Reveal the holy grail that is you config. Please give we, the condescending masses, a mere fraction of your incomprehensive wisdom. Rid us of our real lives, money, commitments and free time and lead us all in the way of the Skulk Messiah. For thine is the server, the leap and the bite forever and ever, Amen.

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

Torgo · July 2003

Hmm, I agree Cereal KilleR...I seem to recall this Nightcrawler/Leap Ownage issue from before...

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Ive spent many a day of my live telling and showing all the glorys of leap. Ive writen so much about how to leap effectively that i have gotten sick of writing and i now would like for me to be able to show you the damage potential of leap. To start you off leap does around 300 damage per leap if you hav an fps of 100. 2 leaps kills a fully upgraded ha marine. Now, i know from experiance that telling you how leap works will not help you learn how to do it. I want to show you.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>yes, the GOD of ns plays on RedPhive server. His name is Wertdagf. Beware for he will pwn you hardcore. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've yet to find a person that exceds my skill as a skulk. And ive yet to find anyone that even comes close to my skill with leap. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>...This is were you set up your one hit kill(well actualy it takes 2 leaps but still). Wait for the HA marine to stop moving, like reloading or somthing, Then leap down on top of him looking striaght down on his head(then .5 seconds after the first leap do another one)this should kill him and he'll say "WTH!?!?!? OMG HACKS". </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>come play with me if you feel like getting owned by leap or if you want to have me teach you how to own with it. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I would assumed that these "vetrans" and "clanners" knew tha leap did 400 damage and that a skulk can kill a fully upgraded ha marine in 2 seconds, But yet agian i was wrong </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I get around 30+ leap kills a game on clan servers and they call it an exploit and a bug every server keeps threatining to ban me. I was wondering if leap has changed at all in 1.1 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Ph0enix · July 2003

The FPS issue is one common to all HL mods. Each come across it and sometimes its an issue, sometimes its not.

Flayra simply had no knowledge of it, he does now, it's being sorted.

PS. Theres 2 people who's posts I simply skip past on these baords. One of them in Nightcrawler. I'd advise you to do the same <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

MonsieurEvil · July 2003

As amusing as it is to see NightCrawler get pwned here in an endless sarcasm-spam ( <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> ), I must relegate this topic to the land of locked.

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