Low Fps

Phoenix2147Phoenix2147 Join Date: 2003-07-04 Member: 17921Members
<div class="IPBDescription">low fps</div> does eanyone know how to improve my fps? <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    Run in a lower resolution in openGL (if your card can do openGL) and turn vsync off in your cards options (may give you more fps, however you may also experience some 'tearing' in game). Aside from that you'd have to get a better graphics card.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=34027' target='_blank'>Read this</a>
  • WarCowWarCow Join Date: 2003-06-16 Member: 17402Members, Constellation
    One good and fast tip is to make a filed called "autoexec.cfg" in your ns folder. Insert the line: gl_max_size 128

    It reduces the quality of the textures and so on, so you get a bit more ugly and blurred gfx..but loads of lovely FPS <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I went from 30 fps to 60 fps with it..
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    This shortcut, <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=5334' target='_blank'>here</a>, will take you to a thread which will help the overall performance of HL.

    This shortcut, <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=8100' target='_blank'>here</a>, gaves tips specific to increasing your FPS.

    These will help if your trying to get the best out of a low spec machine. If you've got a high spec machine then look at the thread Paq posted, it's likely your FPS is being held back by the reasons therein.
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
  • NeoHumanityNeoHumanity Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15363Members
    Upgrade your computer. Seriously, get rid of the Voodoo 3...O_o
  • AezayAezay Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15660Members
    Get a better CPU, almost any gfx card can make Half-Life run at 100 fps.
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Aezay+Jul 4 2003, 09:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aezay @ Jul 4 2003, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Get a better CPU, almost any gfx card can make Half-Life run at 100 fps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well that is almost as helpful as saying, you suck.
    I'm sure he doesn't want to spend 3 grand on a super gamming computer.
    Hes looking for client side easy fixes.

    But to compleet what you said...

    Have a Good card, nothing from the VooDoo ages

    Have at least 128mbs of ram (256 rec)

    Have a computer of P3 500 or higher

    if you can't reach these min requirements, there is nothing that anyone can do to help you, and don't think your going to play any next generation games (doom 3 or Half Life 2) your computer is too old!

    Why do people still have computer with voodoo cards and 64mbs of ram, I wounder? anyone out there running a dinosor computer?
  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Jul 4 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Jul 4 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why do people still have computer with voodoo cards and 64mbs of ram, I wounder? anyone out there running a dinosor computer? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry to pull you up here with a reality check, buy not everyone's got a money tree in the backyard <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NeoHumanityNeoHumanity Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15363Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Sorry to pull you up here with a reality check, buy not everyone's got a money tree in the backyard
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You dont need a lot of money to get a PC that can play most games at a playable frame rate. A GeForce 4 MX only cost around $50-$60 USD, even if you are tight on cash thats not really a lot of money. A GeForce 4 MX can run any game out right now at a playable frame rate with medium to low details. And it will get you over 100FPS with a HL1 engine game.

    The main problem would be a good CPU, because you'll need to buy a new mobo and RAM, too. For a mobo, good CPU, and 256Megs of RAM you'll have to spend no less then $250 USD.

    Who says you need to upgrade to an uber-"elite" gaming rig? Just get a system that is good enough to run most current games at a playable frame rate at medium or low detail. I'd say that all you would need for that is a Pentium 3 700Mhz, GeForce 4 MX/GeForce 2 Ti, and 256Megs of RAM.
  • StoneMonkStoneMonk Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17279Members, Constellation
    Heck, you can get a decent AMD 2100+ w/ a good MB for around 110-150$ now, and a 512M stick of decent ram for another 70-80$. I use a GForce3 64M vanilla card and have no probs running at 100fps, those are about 100$

    I understand no cash, but there are ways of getting a decent comp for cheap, even if it isnt the uber-comp you dream of.

    But, yeah, those other links were great for fps increases, brought mine from the 50-60 range to 100 pretty steady. GL
  • snozzlesnozzle Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15788Members
    in other words - ebay

    some people sell ridicously good cards at REALLY low prices in comparison to the market
  • NeoHumanityNeoHumanity Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15363Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    I use a GForce3 64M vanilla card and have no probs running at 100fps, those are about 100$
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    I got a Gainward GeForce 3 Ti-200 for $78. Its overclocked to 250 Core & 550 Memory. It was a great deal.
  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    well I would save for a top of the line video card.... its amazing when you buy the top of the line graphics card and a month later a newer one comes out ;\ o well tahts life.... as long as i get a DX9 compatible with 256mb <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> im good for a few years
  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Jul 4 2003, 09:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Jul 4 2003, 09:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...anyone out there running a dinosor computer? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My freind plays HL/NS ALOT on his laptop. Specs: 400mhz, 64mb SDram. Videocard is an ATI rage, with 8mb videoram I think. He gets about 12 fps.

    Me? I've tried running it on dinosaurs.. but gave up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    ATM I've got a duron 1.3GHz and a crappy 64MB graphics card with 512MB 266MHz RAM, and I get about 50 fps at best, down to ~20-25 at worst (turrets and phases).

    I'm upgrading soon to an Athlon thoroughbred 2400+ and GeForce 4 Ti 4800 256MB for about £170 plus vat. It should kick HL's butt - maybe now I'll be able to play DOD beach maps :/
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Jul 4 2003, 09:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Jul 4 2003, 09:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Have a Good card, nothing from the VooDoo ages

    Have a computer of P3 500 or higher


    Why do people still have computer with voodoo cards and 64mbs of ram, I wounder? anyone out there running a dinosor computer? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Screw you, i get along fine with my p450 and 2x VooDoo2 cards in SLI mode.

    well...i say fine... if 10fps at 512x320 res is your thang

    Although with this aging system i DO get a free HL wall-hack- i can tell when i'm by an enemy base because my fps drops reeeaaallyy quickly
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--RabidWeasel+Jul 4 2003, 04:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RabidWeasel @ Jul 4 2003, 04:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> GeForce 4 Ti 4800 256MB <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ti 4800 256mb? Dude if your going to spend money on a card you should at least get a DX9 spec card (Radeon 9500 Pro), and the extra 128mb wont do you much right now.
  • Cheez1Cheez1 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12900Members
  • kolokolkolokol Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9166Members
    hehe try a tnt2.....when a skulk comes bouncing at me it disapears between bounces and i have to guess where they are and shoot there <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NeoHumanityNeoHumanity Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15363Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Ti 4800 256mb? Dude if your going to spend money on a card you should at least get a DX9 spec card (Radeon 9500 Pro), and the extra 128mb wont do you much right now.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Why? No games will use major DX9 features for a long time. Hell, games are just barely starting to use DX8 features.
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    yea but that card is inferior compared to the R9500 Pro, and they run at about the same price.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    120 MHZ, no vid card, sound blaster sound card, <128mb ram...
    Why do i have this compared to my better computer?

    My "better" computer cant run the old games at all, thats why! i want to be able to play Xcom and Doom, darnit!

    seriously though, keep the old one for old games; the games that computer can run. buy a new one. you'd be surprised how cheap even a *fair* computer is today (im talking about 1ghz here, w/o a vid card possibly) and it *can* be less than $1000.
  • parkanparkan Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maveric+Jul 5 2003, 08:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Jul 5 2003, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 120 MHZ, no vid card, sound blaster sound card, <128mb ram...
    Why do i have this compared to my better computer?

    My "better" computer cant run the old games at all, thats why! i want to be able to play Xcom and Doom, darnit!

    seriously though, keep the old one for old games; the games that computer can run. buy a new one. you'd be surprised how cheap even a *fair* computer is today (im talking about 1ghz here, w/o a vid card possibly) and it *can* be less than $1000. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You can get a 1Ghz box with an el cheapo card for under $200 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NoObiE_MechNoObiE_Mech Join Date: 2003-06-15 Member: 17391Members, Constellation
    The Ti 4800 is a damn good card. I suggest just getting ASUS GeForce4 Ti4200-8X graphics card; it's a 128 version, but you don't need the extra vid ram.

    Also, I'm noticing Nvidia cards are more compatible than ATI cards. In any case, you can't go wrong with the Ti 4800.
  • CrisqoCrisqo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11625Members
    edited July 2003
    ..Why does everyone think the Geforce 4 MX is any good? I've got a MX 440, 1 gig amd proc, and 384 mbs of ram and I struggle at 37 frames.

    -Edit- Just do what I am doing...save up about $150 and buy a GeforceFx 5900 factory direct...beats paying $477 for it.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Crisqo+Jul 6 2003, 04:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crisqo @ Jul 6 2003, 04:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ..Why does everyone think the Geforce 4 MX is any good?  I've got a MX 440, 1 gig amd proc, and 384 mbs of ram and I struggle at 37 frames.

    -Edit- Just do what I am doing...save up about $150 and buy a GeforceFx 5900 factory direct...beats paying $477 for it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Eh, I had 1 gig AMD athlon, Geforge2 MX400 64MB, 256 sdram and my average fps was 50 with custom models.
    And it was about 60-70 with default models.

    I changed graphic card to GeForge4 Ti4200 128Mb and increased the memory to 512 DDR.
    Now my average fps is about 20fps better than it was with my old graphic card and memory.

    I suggest that you should read <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=18&t=34027' target='_blank'>THIS</a> and you will get better fps. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CorradoCorrado Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11423Members
    I have a gf4mx and get a full 100fps.

    If you only get 37 fps with your gf4, then the bottleneck is somewhere else, and the 5900 will be no different.
  • NeoHumanityNeoHumanity Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15363Members
    A GeForce 4 MX is just a really fast GeForce 2 with a few extra features (Lightspeed memory II, and a few extra FSAA modes).
  • FaT_CaMFaT_CaM Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15394Members
    yeah, better off getting one of the GF3 Turbo's (sp?) They are better than gf4mx's with more features and such, some compete with gf4 ti 4200's
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