No Vis?

XiaoXiaoXiaoXiao Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9543Members
in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">error?</div> I keep on getting this error saying "Warning: No vis information, direct lighting only."
** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: C:\SIERRA\Half-Life


** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\ns\maps\demo\ns_empty.map" "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty.map"


** Executing...
** Command: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlcsg.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty
Entering C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

3 brushes (totalling 18 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
10%...30%...40%...50%...60%...80%...90%... (0.06 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
40%...70%... (0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (0.39 seconds)

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\ns\ns.wad
- Contains 11 used textures, 100.00 percent of map (578 textures in wad)

added 1 additional animating textures.
Texture usage is at 0.37 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
0.52 seconds elapsed

----- END hlcsg -----




** Executing...
** Command: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlbsp.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)


BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty.prt'
0.83 seconds elapsed

----- END hlbsp -----




** Executing...
** Command: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlvis.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty"

hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlvis.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty
204 portalleafs
672 numportals

** Executing...
** Command: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\ZONERS~1\hlrad.exe C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\NS\Maps\ns_empty

-= Current hlrad Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
--------------------|---------------------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]
oversampling (-extra)[ off ] [ off ]
bounces [ 1 ] [ 1 ]
ambient light [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ] [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ]
maximum light [ 255.000 ] [ 256.000 ]
circus mode [ off ] [ off ]

smoothing threshold [ 50.000 ] [ 50.000 ]
direct threshold [ 25.000 ] [ 25.000 ]
direct light scale [ 2.000 ] [ 2.000 ]
coring threshold [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
patch interpolation [ on ] [ on ]

texscale [ on ] [ on ]
patch subdividing [ on ] [ on ]
chop value [ 64.000 ] [ 64.000 ]
texchop value [ 32.000 ] [ 32.000 ]

global fade [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global falloff [ 2 ] [ 2 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ] [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ]
global gamma [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ] [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global sky diffusion [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]

opaque entities [ on ] [ on ]
sky lighting fix [ on ] [ on ]
incremental [ off ] [ off ]
dump [ off ] [ off ]

colour jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
monochromatic jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
softlight hack [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
diffuse hack [ on ] [ on ]
spotlight points [ on ] [ on ]

custom shadows with bounce light
[ off ] [ off ]
rgb transfers [ off ] [ off ]


Warning: No vis information, direct lighting only.
1248 faces
Create Patches : 14441 base patches
0 opaque faces
143790 square feet [20705902.00 square inches]
10 direct lights

BuildFacelights:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (12.13 seconds)
FinalLightFace:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (0.11 seconds)
12.53 seconds elapsed

----- END hlrad -----




** Executing...
** Command: C:\SIERRA\HALF-L~1\hl.exe
** Parameters: -game ns -noipx -nointro -console +map "ns_empty"

help?
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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    Jeah better run vis.
    seriously.
    and use -estimate -chart on every step.
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  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    er... good answer Ollj <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Well, it looks like VIS.exe crashes without an error message. At least it doesn't say if it has finished or aborted due to an error. What might cause it... we'll never know.

    /me notices that /me gave an answer as helpfull as Ollj and is happy about being as helpfull as Ollj <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • XiaoXiaoXiaoXiao Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9543Members
    the funny thing is that the map still works...hmm...maybe a bug?
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  • SpoogeSpooge Thunderbolt missile in your cheerios Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 67Members
    WARNING - *Non-expert mapping advice*

    It says there are 10 direct lights but I'm wondering if you placed any light entities or used texture lighting?

    If I remember correctly, if there are no lights, the map will compile but it will be "full bright". I don't know if that gives this error message but....
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  • NayNay Join Date: 2002-06-09 Member: 741Members
    dont worry about the no vis information error just means rad is running before vis <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> sorry if someone already said that above i never read <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    lol, are you blind? it says only direct lights, because there is no vis info, but vis is run before rad, as you can see from the log. the map still runs fine, because a map does neither nid vis info nor does it night lighting info to *run*. but no vis means, the whole map is visible at any time and only direct lights means that the light wont bounce of the walls again to get around corners. so what you have now is a usual quick & dirty compile for testing. if you want to release the map some day you really need to get vis running again!!!
    check disk for errors, download new version of vis, download old version of vis...
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  • ShadowicsShadowics Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7652Members
    Nerd is right, unlike everyone else who replied before.

    You're using an old version of the compile tools, get the latest versions from webbed thread at the top of this forum, and try it again. If that doesn't work then it's most likely some very unusual error in your map that's messing up Vis. If with the new tools Vis still doesn't work run csg and bsp normally, then run Hlvis.exe with the parameters "-verbose -dev 6" and post the compile log here, that should at least tell us when it's crashing, if not what the problem is.
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