dont listen to space ... he is a man of science and doesnt belive in anything that he cant smell taste touch or **** ... he believes in money and power .. and the power of words ...
i know space quiet well ... and he isnt the type to start believing in the whole mental abilities ... even if he has experienced it .. he will deny it ever happening without proof ... which brings me to the rest of the world .. only a certain percentage will believe in god truely .. what i believe is irrelevent to what any1 else belives and what others say should not affect what u think and do .. ive never heard about psiballs personally but ive experieced the power of an energy sheild from neagtive energy ... personally i think if theres evil in this world then there has to be the otherside of the scale ...
god is a made up being the human race believes in to stay stable .. the figure being of the all mighty creator has been in and out of all cultures and races .. we need to be insignificant in this world to strive to be a better person .. my personal experiences with phichic powers and mental telepathy and mental scanning and healing others has been prooven to work ... and b4 i was taught how to do these things ... i was in complete doubt about what to expect or if it would even work at all ..
all we have to do in life is stay healthy stay happy think positive and treat others as u would like to treated .. karma theory will work if u belive it ... the flipping coin will work because what u think will affect what comes next .. if u plan ur life in a book then thats how ur life will be ... if u dont expect nothing but the best and highest things ... u will never get them ... how does this fit into the whole psiballs and psipog **** ..
its all the same energy the brain produces ... special techniuqes which u can learn can actually raise ur iq levels to a state where u can know and absorb anything u like ... we are capable of so much more then we feel and do .. and its people like space who put others down and laugh at u for clashes in what u believe in .. the eziest way to get over sum1 lkike space is to think down on him ... and forgive and forget about it ...
<!--QuoteBegin--Sp@ceM0nkey+Jul 18 2003, 01:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sp@ceM0nkey @ Jul 18 2003, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... I respect that for many people differ to me in this respect. And i believe that faith is a positive force in people lives. ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Your posts dont seem to reflect this view. No need to flame him several times on an off topic post.
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Ok, I read several articles on that site. I have a favor of one of the people that believes in this to do for me. Sit down at a table, with a friend who does not believe in this technique. Place a thermometer in between your hands. Wait at least 10 minutes for the thermometer to warm up to your hands being around it. Record temperature. Then, create a "psi-ball" that will change the temp. Have your friend record the temp. at a given interval, say... every thirty seconds. Do this several times. Then try doing it with a voltmeter if you happen to create the "psi-balls" that work with current / electricity.
I'd also like to see the results.
[edit: currently I'm at work. I'll be interested to watch the videos when I get home. Disproving things like this keeps my mind sharp. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ]
Anything which claims to be true must have reason to consider itself true, and must have justification for such claims. Physics, and in fact, all sciences use this theory. Usually however, as soon as the metaphysical aspect of the nature of the universe is brought up, the need for proof is discounted, usually with a claim such as jedillama's:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->dont listen to space ... he is a man of science and doesnt belive in anything that he cant smell taste touch or **** ... he believes in money and power .. and the power of words ...
i know space quiet well ... and he isnt the type to start believing in the whole mental abilities ... even if he has experienced it .. he will deny it ever happening without proof ... which brings me to the rest of the world .. only a certain percentage will believe in god truely .. what i believe is irrelevent to what any1 else belives and what others say should not affect what u think and do .. ive never heard about psiballs personally but ive experieced the power of an energy sheild from neagtive energy ... personally i think if theres evil in this world then there has to be the otherside of the scale ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
SO, what then, are we really supposed to choose our beliefs on blind faith? Maybe we should roll dice?
Tommy rolls the dice...
Tommy: Damn, I'm a ninhilist(sp, sorry).
No, the reason that we have free will, wheter we have been given it or if it has just developed through evolutionary means, is so that we can choose them based on which belief seems the most sensable to us. Does this make all beliefs right? Cerainly not! If all of them were, then there would be no God, Yahweh, Shiva, and Athena existing all at the same time. Which, of course, is impossible. One belief has to be right, or no beliefs are right and we're all just screwed. However, with the diversity of the creeds that people choose, it is reasonable to assume that one of them is correct, and that we must find it.
Logically then, the correct belief should be the one which can be proven, since a great deal of other ones contradict each other, only one belief should arise uncontested. If you were around for the great Religion Thread, you know what I'm talking about, that an intelligent discussion involving religion/metaphysics, can and should involve points backed up by proof.
Don't write off people as stupid and ignorant just because they're skeptical. If we did that, we'd still be living in caves for Christ's sake.
Correct, but this, from what I have read on the website at least, seems to be provable if it exists. I'm just asking them to back up their claims of "psi-balls" with more than just extremely fuzzy pictures.
yeah, my bad. I posted in the wrong thread entirely. I thought the first paragraph might still apply, so to save face I left it. Hang on I'll try to edit again.
I hate to do this, but reading through this topic, it's scorched earth waiting to go aflame anew by the first wrong post. A pity seeing how well most of you handled yourself, but nonetheless...
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i know space quiet well ... and he isnt the type to start believing in the whole mental abilities ... even if he has experienced it .. he will deny it ever happening without proof ... which brings me to the rest of the world .. only a certain percentage will believe in god truely .. what i believe is irrelevent to what any1 else belives and what others say should not affect what u think and do .. ive never heard about psiballs personally but ive experieced the power of an energy sheild from neagtive energy ... personally i think if theres evil in this world then there has to be the otherside of the scale ...
god is a made up being the human race believes in to stay stable .. the figure being of the all mighty creator has been in and out of all cultures and races .. we need to be insignificant in this world to strive to be a better person .. my personal experiences with phichic powers and mental telepathy and mental scanning and healing others has been prooven to work ... and b4 i was taught how to do these things ... i was in complete doubt about what to expect or if it would even work at all ..
all we have to do in life is stay healthy stay happy think positive and treat others as u would like to treated .. karma theory will work if u belive it ... the flipping coin will work because what u think will affect what comes next .. if u plan ur life in a book then thats how ur life will be ... if u dont expect nothing but the best and highest things ... u will never get them ... how does this fit into the whole psiballs and psipog **** ..
its all the same energy the brain produces ... special techniuqes which u can learn can actually raise ur iq levels to a state where u can know and absorb anything u like ... we are capable of so much more then we feel and do .. and its people like space who put others down and laugh at u for clashes in what u believe in .. the eziest way to get over sum1 lkike space is to think down on him ... and forgive and forget about it ...
Jedilamma
I respect that for many people differ to me in this respect. And i believe that faith is a positive force in people lives. ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your posts dont seem to reflect this view. No need to flame him several times on an off topic post.
I'd also like to see the results.
[edit: currently I'm at work. I'll be interested to watch the videos when I get home. Disproving things like this keeps my mind sharp. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ]
Anything which claims to be true must have reason to consider itself true, and must have justification for such claims. Physics, and in fact, all sciences use this theory. Usually however, as soon as the metaphysical aspect of the nature of the universe is brought up, the need for proof is discounted, usually with a claim such as jedillama's:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->dont listen to space ... he is a man of science and doesnt belive in anything that he cant smell taste touch or **** ... he believes in money and power .. and the power of words ...
i know space quiet well ... and he isnt the type to start believing in the whole mental abilities ... even if he has experienced it .. he will deny it ever happening without proof ... which brings me to the rest of the world .. only a certain percentage will believe in god truely .. what i believe is irrelevent to what any1 else belives and what others say should not affect what u think and do .. ive never heard about psiballs personally but ive experieced the power of an energy sheild from neagtive energy ... personally i think if theres evil in this world then there has to be the otherside of the scale ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
SO, what then, are we really supposed to choose our beliefs on blind faith? Maybe we should roll dice?
Tommy rolls the dice...
Tommy: Damn, I'm a ninhilist(sp, sorry).
No, the reason that we have free will, wheter we have been given it or if it has just developed through evolutionary means, is so that we can choose them based on which belief seems the most sensable to us. Does this make all beliefs right? Cerainly not! If all of them were, then there would be no God, Yahweh, Shiva, and Athena existing all at the same time. Which, of course, is impossible. One belief has to be right, or no beliefs are right and we're all just screwed. However, with the diversity of the creeds that people choose, it is reasonable to assume that one of them is correct, and that we must find it.
Logically then, the correct belief should be the one which can be proven, since a great deal of other ones contradict each other, only one belief should arise uncontested. If you were around for the great Religion Thread, you know what I'm talking about, that an intelligent discussion involving religion/metaphysics, can and should involve points backed up by proof.
Don't write off people as stupid and ignorant just because they're skeptical. If we did that, we'd still be living in caves for Christ's sake.
/edit, wrong topic!
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