Is That A Flamethrower In The Ss With The Ha?

acer_r1

<div class="IPBDescription">O-o</div> It has a gorge using bilebomb and soem weird orange stuff at the bottom that looks like flames. What is it?.

Khaim

Skulk exploded, Xenocide.

acer_r1

ahh i see....

Bosnian_Cowboy

If the HL engine can have a skulk exploding then it can't be too far off from a flamethrower. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Sirus

It's the volumetric part thats the problem.

lolfighter

I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine.

Moquiao

<!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk.

ThinG

<!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Amen to that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

The new graphical tweaks of NS 2.0 look nifty though <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

lolfighter

<!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 02:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I tend to agree, but this is the w3rd of Flayra. Please spank me if I'm wrong.

Dread

It's not impossible to make a cool looking flamie in HL-engine. Like Sirus said, it's hard to make volumetric flamethrower that works on low-end comps too.

Javert

<!--QuoteBegin--Dread+Jul 19 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Jul 19 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's not impossible to make a cool looking flamie in HL-engine. Like Sirus said, it's hard to make volumetric flamethrower that works on low-end comps too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I could have sworn that some guy once demo-ed a really good lookin' flamethrower on the HL engine. So it is theoretically and graphically possible. But true that low-end comps and connections defin. would have a hard time with it as well as the volum. problem.

MrMojo

You're forgetting that how it plays in a demo is much different then how it would play with 16 people online.

BadKarma

Desert Crisis has a pretty flamethrower. Fun too.

SilverWolf

<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> A flame thrower would really be kind of... pointless, IMO, and it would take a lot of skill out of the game, i know that spray and pray would actually be effective with a weapon like this. While i do agree that in the future versions, we need some variety of weapons for the marines, a flame thrower is out of the question. You guys will have enough fun with the new grenage launcher anyway, trust me ^_^

ElectricSheep

<!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tsk Tsk
Rotting = Decomposing
Flamethrowers = A device that throws flame.
Burning = What happens to Skulks when they come into contact with flame.
(Plz dont flame me)

Frogg2

<!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That would be even harder to do D:

Haze

<!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 08:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 02:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 02:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I tend to agree, but this is the w3rd of Flayra. Please spank me if I'm wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
How many do you want, big boy? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

Mad_Man

<!--QuoteBegin--ElectricSheep+Jul 19 2003, 11:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Jul 19 2003, 11:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tsk Tsk
Rotting = Decomposing
Flamethrowers = A device that throws flame.
Burning = What happens to Skulks when they come into contact with flame.
(Plz dont flame me) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ever smelt burning flesh? ^_^

Maveric

<!--QuoteBegin--STD-SilverWolf+Jul 19 2003, 09:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (STD-SilverWolf @ Jul 19 2003, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> A flame thrower would really be kind of... pointless, IMO, and it would take a lot of skill out of the game, i know that spray and pray would actually be effective with a weapon like this. While i do agree that in the future versions, we need some variety of weapons for the marines, a flame thrower is out of the question. You guys will have enough fun with the new grenage launcher anyway, trust me ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pointless? it'd clear the vents like x-lax and prune juice, for goodness sakes! way better than the grenade launcher could ever do.

[sarcasm]No more skill in NS? OMG NOOOooo![/sarcasm] pfft. who cares if "there's no skill in this weapon" there's been thousands of weapons that have "no skill" like a highly powerful sniper rifle, heat-seaking rocket, etc. Spray and Pray is supposed to work for the flamethrower since those flames put a barrier between you and the thing you're torching. besides skill doesn't exist since you fire in a cone shape, anyways, and there are no head hitboxes.

Dread

<!--QuoteBegin--Mad Man+Jul 19 2003, 07:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mad Man @ Jul 19 2003, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ever smelt burning flesh? ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, three times.

Sadly it was my own.

BadKarma

<!--QuoteBegin--Mad Man+Jul 19 2003, 12:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mad Man @ Jul 19 2003, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--ElectricSheep+Jul 19 2003, 11:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Jul 19 2003, 11:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 19 2003, 07:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 19 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think I've heard that a flamethrower isn't going in unless it's pretty (pff), and that it's nigh-impossible to make a pretty flamethrower in the HL engine. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but if i was 'torching' a hive.. i wouldnt care whetehr its pretty so long as i can smell rotting skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tsk Tsk
Rotting = Decomposing
Flamethrowers = A device that throws flame.
Burning = What happens to Skulks when they come into contact with flame.
(Plz dont flame me) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ever smelt burning flesh? ^_^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes! I like to call it <i>steak</i>.

Vincent_Cristof

i dont like the idea of a flame thrower in NS. leave those in DC and TFC. find something more new and creative and non-whorish. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Bosnian_Cowboy

It's not like Natural Selection is friendly to low sytem requirments anyway. If it can be done in Desert Crisis well enough, it can be done better in Natural Selection (because NS has Flayra). <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

I believe this is the Desert Crisis flamethrower. These people can't even model good hands and they're making a good flamethrower!

<img src='http://www.desertcrisis.com/media/mediaingame/dc15pic_026.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Vincent_Cristof

ummmm thats the plasma cannon <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

edit: there ya go...i hated that thing

Bosnian_Cowboy

I edited it. There is a good chance that flame came from a flamthrower. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Vincent_Cristof

yeah dont worry about it...i hardly play that game anymore thanks to its [sarcasm] swell[/sarcasm] community <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Infected_Marine

<!--QuoteBegin--STD-SilverWolf+Jul 19 2003, 11:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (STD-SilverWolf @ Jul 19 2003, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A flame thrower would really be kind of... pointless, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pointless? Where not talking about a zippo lighter here. Sorry, I just can't believe some one actually said that.

MrMojo

Pointless as in not adding to the game value. It would just be a huge ball of flame that doesnt really do much...You know, while we're at it, rocket launchers would be cool, and so would a rail gun.

Bosnian_Cowboy

Railguns are usually used with vehicles and rocket launchers are used against vehicles. Since NS doesn't have vehicles then there's no reason to have them (I'm ignoring your sarcasm). Flamethrowers would have a "point" in NS, they would burn stuff. I mean we could say all a GL does is shoot grenades that have no point, or a HMG shoots bullets that have no point, but we're not because the "point" argument is kind of pointless.

I think a flamethrower should replace the GL as the anti-building/webb weapon, it would be much cooler taking webbs down with a flamethrower than a lame welder or GL. What's the validity of "cool" in a computer game? Well I wouldn't be playing computer games if "cool" a consideration in a game designers mind.

Maveric

<!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Jul 19 2003, 02:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 19 2003, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pointless as in not adding to the game value. It would just be a huge ball of flame that doesnt really do much... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh wow, you insight is stupendous, while there are so many unsolved crimes. Go, go! For the good of the city!

PFFFFT.

If a alien is in the vent you currently use the GL; GL makes aliens run away from the *timed* grenade. If you used a flame thrower that was volumetric you'd just stick it in the open end of the vent and shoot. *SWOOOSH* Everything in the vent is extra crispy. Just like when you take X-LAX to rid yourself of constepation, that alien is one cooked turd. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Lazer

A railgun would be nice... It would be like a really slow ROF shotgun used for long range.

And I haven't seen this one brought up yet:
New SECONDARY weapons. Ok, we got the pistol, and then the "items" (mines, welder), but what about a more powerful pistol or something?