<!--QuoteBegin--briguy992+Jul 20 2003, 12:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (briguy992 @ Jul 20 2003, 12:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well I think the vets know what they are talking about unless you have great experience with 2.0 which you don't.... you just gotta remember this isn't called 2.0 for a reason <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> and i agree that nobody should tell the vets/pt's what to do cause Flay picked them <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually.. we just run around doing the hokey pokey in game... and then whoever mess's up the circle must give a random thought and if we like it we proceed in playing red rover *in game* to see if the idea pass's.
Snozzle: I'm going to disprove your entire post by naming one person 'Aphon' j/k <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Ps: Why is this post directed soley at vets when I just saw pt's compare prices as well? Or they talking about vets in general as in the entire testing group? Again I would like to blame everything on the evil cows *not to be confused with the good cows* that are taking over the earth farm by farm!
<!--QuoteBegin--snozzle+Jul 20 2003, 03:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (snozzle @ Jul 20 2003, 03:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its pretty hard to kill a fade 1v1 because of blink. Blink > all
you'll see why when you play <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> thanks for answering <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Err wait, even them don't flame NS. This isn't CS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think it was mainly only savant who tried to balance the game by just calculating (incomplete) figures, not all the playtesters/veterans. And just looking at his calcultions, they don't seem to be 100% correct as well, at least for me.
Don't panic, I think most ot the PTs and vets do know what they're talking about <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
TY Rendar. Yes, it's not just a 2.0 thing, but balancing any game.
It's not that things that cost more are more effective that bothers me. It's that some people are assuming that it should be a rather linear relationship. The various jocular comments about giving players thousands of health points says the same thing. The health/armor/damage values aren't as important as getting what you paid for. Drastic changes obviously aren't needed if there are plenty of people who are happy (and there are, so its gotta be somewhat close). If some people are getting more than their res out of lerking, it may be useful to drop the cost a few points to widen the audience, but pulling arbitrary cost numbers out of this linear thinking isn't going to improve anything. That is what I was getting at.
Heck, you flame each other. Don't go after me for attempting to point out why. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
God I'm glad I'm not a mod or I'd have to bulk order cans of SUYF for random, uneducated rants like this dude's <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--taboofires+Jul 20 2003, 07:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Jul 20 2003, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The various jocular comments about giving players thousands of health points says the same thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> As you said, they were kidding, so why take it serious? As far as I know most of the vets and pts (asking some vets in my clan <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> ) are quite happpy with the current lerk (that's what this topic is pointing at, isn't it?)
<!--QuoteBegin--Chack+Jul 20 2003, 12:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chack @ Jul 20 2003, 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't panic, I think most ot the PTs and vets do know what they're talking about <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> WTH and here i thought i was here to simulate the random stupid guy that jumps into the hera pit time after time screaming "weeeeeeeeee" all the way down
<!--QuoteBegin--JRA_Rendar+Jul 20 2003, 03:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JRA_Rendar @ Jul 20 2003, 03:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Cows are INDEED evil..... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not all cows are evil! Most cows are good and respectiple animals that should be given the due respect all deitys are given.
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Actually.. we just run around doing the hokey pokey in game... and then whoever mess's up the circle must give a random thought and if we like it we proceed in playing red rover *in game* to see if the idea pass's.
Snozzle: I'm going to disprove your entire post by naming one person 'Aphon' j/k <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Ps: Why is this post directed soley at vets when I just saw pt's compare prices as well? Or they talking about vets in general as in the entire testing group? Again I would like to blame everything on the evil cows *not to be confused with the good cows* that are taking over the earth farm by farm!
you'll see why when you play <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
thanks for answering <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Err wait, even them don't flame NS. This isn't CS <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Don't panic, I think most ot the PTs and vets do know what they're talking about <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
It's not that things that cost more are more effective that bothers me. It's that some people are assuming that it should be a rather linear relationship. The various jocular comments about giving players thousands of health points says the same thing. The health/armor/damage values aren't as important as getting what you paid for. Drastic changes obviously aren't needed if there are plenty of people who are happy (and there are, so its gotta be somewhat close). If some people are getting more than their res out of lerking, it may be useful to drop the cost a few points to widen the audience, but pulling arbitrary cost numbers out of this linear thinking isn't going to improve anything. That is what I was getting at.
Heck, you flame each other. Don't go after me for attempting to point out why. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
edit: ugh spelling
As you said, they were kidding, so why take it serious? As far as I know most of the vets and pts (asking some vets in my clan <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> ) are quite happpy with the current lerk (that's what this topic is pointing at, isn't it?)
WTH and here i thought i was here to simulate the random stupid guy that jumps into the hera pit time after time screaming "weeeeeeeeee" all the way down
Not all cows are evil! Most cows are good and respectiple animals that should be given the due respect all deitys are given.