2.0 Shottie

TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">any changes?</div> I was wondering if anything is changing revolving the shottie in the upcoming version...

I was going to check... but the 2.0 change log was just taken down <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    bleh...
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  • SubstylesSubstyles Join Date: 2003-04-10 Member: 15380Members
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  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    As Far as I remember the only shotgun change is that is does a little more or less damage and it functions more like an automatic shotgun.
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  • Young_TrotskyYoung_Trotsky Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12285Members
    Much increased ROF, apparently the new shotty is to the old as the xm1014 is to the M3 in counter-strike.
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  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Young Trotsky+Jul 30 2003, 12:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Young Trotsky @ Jul 30 2003, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Much increased ROF, apparently the new shotty is to the old as the xm1014 is to the M3 in counter-strike. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is also cheaper as well. I can see the shotgun getting used much more in 2.0
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  • sinansinan Join Date: 2003-06-12 Member: 17300Members
    well any commander who doesn't drop shotguns will be shooting himself in the foot. I've seen more onii die to shotguns than hmg or gl in the recent versions. Thats not saying its overpowered, just that its ideally suited to hitting large, slow aliens.
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  • DementedDemented Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18573Members
    The xm104 was an incredibly powerful close range weapon in CS. In the hand sof a noob it could still inflict grevious damage.

    Will this be the case in 2.0? If so, wouldn't the skulks get pwned?
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I'd assume not. As if you don't take down the skulk, you probably won't get a 3rd shot at most.
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  • SuddenFearSuddenFear Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17571Members
    Speaking of the shotgun, I had great fun with it last night. I joined midgame on ns_nothing, and we had a newbie comm. So we had no hives locked down and no upgrades at all. So I ran around for awhile and tried to find out what the aliens were up to. They had Viaduct, and Power Silo was coming along very quickly. So after dying a few times, I respawned and asked for a jetpack and heavy machine gun. I wasn't expecting anything, but a JP was dropped at my feet. And then a shotgun. I've never used JP/Shotgun before, and shotgun has only ever been effective in my hands at the very beginning of the game - one hit kills. So I flied off to Power Silo and saw the first skulk in my path. I should make it clear here that I'm awful at firing with a JP/HMG - I panic, I fly around madly and just spray. So I took deep breath, flew forward along the corridor and fired a quick shot as I went straight over the skulks head. I landed, spun around and went head-on again like a jousting knight. Straight over the skulk - bang - dead alien. It was FUN. But it didn't stop there, as I went to Silo, killing a skulk and the gorge on the way. The Silo hive was still being built, and I'm afraid I still don't know how they take damage when under construction. o_O So I sat underneath it and started putting shotgun rounds in to it. Everytime a skulk came, I flew up to the darkness and easily out-maneuvered the mouldy dogs. The hive made it's plop noise, came down, and I put another round in to it - where it promptly died. And with that, I successfully ramboed a hive without getting hit once. All with a jetpack, a shotgun, unupgraded armour/weapons, and no med or ammo packs. I reinstate - it was AMAZING FUN.

    It's a shame that I only discovered the beauty of a JP/Shottie combo two days before it changes in to an auto-shotgun. =\ I'm going to miss the finesse of it.
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  • OptikalOptikal Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13583Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's a shame that I only discovered the beauty of a JP/Shottie combo two days before it changes in to an auto-shotgun. =\ I'm going to miss the finesse of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The shotgun is a lil quicker, still requires the same skills, and may have it's damage tweaked down a BIT. Its basically the same old shotty at 6 less resources to get. Trust me you will be seeing these used in many strats especially those involving very early rushes.
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  • J_D_WJ_D_W Join Date: 2003-05-22 Member: 16598Members
    TEN RESOURCES FOR A SHOTGUN? FULL AUTO?
    Mad. Ill own em all then <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    Will it be classed as the n00b weapon like the auto shotty in cs??
    But nah i reckon the coolness factor of a shotty is so much higher than the hmg that was so heavily used in 1.04.
    If it becomes cheaper i will request it oh so much more.


    - RD
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  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Optikal+Jul 30 2003, 10:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Optikal @ Jul 30 2003, 10:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's a shame that I only discovered the beauty of a JP/Shottie combo two days before it changes in to an auto-shotgun. =\ I'm going to miss the finesse of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The shotgun is a lil quicker, still requires the same skills, and may have it's damage tweaked down a BIT. Its basically the same old shotty at 6 less resources to get. Trust me you will be seeing these used in many strats especially those involving very early rushes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wait - wasn't 2.0 supposed to reduce those crazy "game over in 2 minutes" rushes?
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  • OptikalOptikal Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13583Members, Constellation
    wlibaers trust me rushes fail alot. in testing games rarely ended in a rush... if they did its because of those damn stackers!!
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  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    It's not full auto. It's not entirely fast at all.

    But don't worry, I think the ROF is perfect.
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  • OptikalOptikal Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13583Members, Constellation
    Yea its slightly faster, it is still a pump shotgun... who started this thing with it being a full auto shottie? I will kill the man!
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  • SamWSamW Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2515Members
    I would also like to state the fact that the jetpack hmg will no longer be so effective... in 2.0 the jetpack will only allow people with hmgs to go 2 times as fast. (and 2x the hmg walking speed = slow <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ) yay for this change. no more supersonic hmgs.
    But the shotgun movement speed is alot faster so shotgun + jetpack may be used more for speed.
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  • FreemantleFreemantle Join Date: 2002-06-16 Member: 783Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Optikal+Jul 30 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Optikal @ Jul 30 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea its slightly faster, it is still a pump shotgun...  who started this thing with it being a full auto shottie?  I will kill the man! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I suggested the idea, then the vetrerans* said "yea, it is faster". Then the neublets said "OMG! T3h Auto-Shottie!"




    <i>*I like this misspelling so much I'm going to keep it.</i>
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