Dad Always Flipping On Me

DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
<div class="IPBDescription">anyone else have this prob?</div> man, my dad gets me so **** it makes me sick today i cut the grass outside while my bro was watching TV, then afterward i do more chores outside, while my bro is stil lwatching TV. then now were heading off the the gym, we have to take my brother somewhere around 30 min away from the gym, i say why is he going so far? in a questionable vice, he flips on me and starts yelling and says im so distrespectful and blah blah and contunuesly bashes me in front of anyone whos around, even after i stop he still bashes me for another 15 minutes non stop, i usually have to end it by saying some bad things outloud to him so the fight would end and i would be punished instead of embarrased even more, and now whenever my brother bothers me,hits me and i hit himmback or yell at him I am the one who gets in rouble if i hit him back, meanwhile hes laughing at me while my dad flips on me, im pretttty dam shure this will get locked or delted, but i really dunt care im just letting it all out becuase of what just happened... again, anyone else have this problem? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> too bad life ISNT fair being the older one

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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    There might be some other factors here affecting the situation. Just like in computer tech support where we can't help without all the system info, here we need some background. How old are you and your brother? What were your brother's plans and how long ago were they made? Is/was a member of the family experiencing some unusual circumstances lately (loss in the family, loss of a job, divorce, etc.)?
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Aug 3 2003, 10:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Aug 3 2003, 10:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There might be some other factors here affecting the situation. Just like in computer tech support where we can't help without all the system info, here we need some background. How old are you and your brother? What were your brother's plans and how long ago were they made? Is/was a member of the family experiencing some unusual circumstances lately (loss in the family, loss of a job, divorce, etc.)? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think he's about 17, from his birthdate on his profile.

    All i can say is, you're still young, siblings fight, families argue, when you grow up they all go away and you lead a nice mature and peaceful life.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Eh if youre about 17 dont worry about it youre gonna be off to college soon enough
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Ontop of what i said above, just don't provoke your dad. Don't instigate arguments, just get along with it. Also take it up with your mom or dad seriously and maturely while alone, see if you can resolve things.
  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    I agree entirely, it isn't very fair when you're the oldest. I'm the oldest of 4, and it really bugs how my parents have certain expectations for how I should act (being polite/manners, respect etc etc), while my 3 younger siblings run around the house making random crude comments. Also, my parents have high expectations from me in school and such, to the point that my dad makes all sorts of unneeded comments about how I got a B instead of an A in some random class. And, as you mentioned, the oldest sbilings always get more chores, and they are always the more difficult chores, while the younger siblings proceed to goof off in the house or at the mall or somewhere.

    The best advice I have for you is to find a place where you can be by yourself and relax, and find something comforting that will let you express your emotions. In my case, my room is a good place for me to be left alone, and I listen to music constantly to feel better. Also, writing out your feelings, as you have done here, is always a good way of burning off that extra anger and energy. You might consider getting a deadjournal for the hell of it.

    On one last note, you can always do what I do and think about how there is a short amount of time left before you'll be able to move out of your parents house and get away from everything.
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    It sucks sometimes when your the oldest, your expected to be the maturest and all. My dad tells me off more than my younger brother or sister when we make mistakes and he's always giving me boring lectures on marturity, which i just switch off in. Can't wait till i move out.
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'm the oldest of four aswell, and it seems alot harder whilst your young, but im 19 in two weeks, moving out in three and at this moment life is great being the oldest...its like a bed and breakfast where I don't pay anything ^_^

    (Although this could be due to the fact my shifts at work mean I see my family for approximately 30 minutes a day heehee)
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I remember when my mom used to get **** cause I made an A- instead of an A+...

    I'm glad I don't have any younger brothers, cause quite honestly, i'd probably be doing time for their murders.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Aug 3 2003, 11:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Aug 3 2003, 11:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There might be some other factors here affecting the situation. Just like in computer tech support where we can't help without all the system info, here we need some background. How old are you and your brother? What were your brother's plans and how long ago were they made? Is/was a member of the family experiencing some unusual circumstances lately (loss in the family, loss of a job, divorce, etc.)? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    im 16, hes 14, no family problems,plans for my brother? err not quite sure what ur saying, i have been having friend problems tho, and i guess them being **** and yelling at me is due to my attitude my friends give me (aka they make plans behind my back, i usually am home playing NS or at the gym, or im doing something AT HOME =/) i dont know but i used to go out almsot every day last yeaer, now im going out mabye once or twic a week due to cut throat loser people who i thought were friends for acouple years. im working to try and get more friends, but so far its been going not as planned but not too bad either. so theres most of the backround, i do have a feeling ive been playing TOOO much NS when i should be out or something <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> , and now my bros beating me in G/F experinces, he had 1 last year and has one now, i HAD one for a few moths during this year, and kind of have one now, (not officially dating) <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> so theres most of the backround
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    I'm Vietnamese, and my parents expect perfection. Generally, Asian parents never encourage kids--they bash them beyond belief to make them work harder. Don't worry. My dad is so unreasonable, all he does is scream, and if you disagree, ugly things happen. Trust me, you have to just nod and agree with whatever he says. I used to argue with him all the time, but now I just agree with him <i>even when he's wrong</i>. Usually it's funny to wait until he finds for himself that he's wrong, and he yells at me and is like, "SEE, EVERYTHING CAN GO WRONG, EVEN YOU!", but it's not that bad.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I remember when my mom used to get **** cause I made an A- instead of an A+...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Same here, only, it still happens =|.

    Trust me, growing up with them, I know a lot, just listen, no matter how hard it is, you have to nod your head and say yes.
  • LokeLoke Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13988Members
    I’m the youngest of all my 2 brothers (I’m 16, my brothers is 19 years old and the other is 31 years old). I also have a sister that is 29.

    Although my oldest bro doesn’t get **** from my father (not my other brother as well), he is very self-confident and are smart, and I hope I turn out to like him. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> My father is nice to all of us, maybe not really when I used to play truant from school (although he didn’t hit me, just wondered where the hell I were).
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Heh. I don't get any more chores than my younger brother, I <i>make</i> him do stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->. I threaten to unplug his broadband and he would have to use the 56k. After all, I'm the one out working in order to pay for it!
  • DocterJDocterJ Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15357Members
    edited August 2003
    A lot of dads get angry. My dad used to cane myass with a bamboo cane. Just take it like a man.
  • CrystalSnakeCrystalSnake Join Date: 2002-01-27 Member: 110Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DocterJ+Aug 4 2003, 02:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DocterJ @ Aug 4 2003, 02:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A lot of dads get angry. My dad used to cane myass with a bamboo cane. Just take it like a man.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Has this experience affected your sexual development in any way?
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    Hey

    i'm a 17 yr old f and live with my bro ( 20 yr's ) in our parents house.

    I usually get the bashing lol
    But that's because i'm a nightmare for my parents :/

    Just saying try to get out more,call up some friends meet new people etc.

    Good luck

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Birdy+Aug 4 2003, 03:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Aug 4 2003, 03:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey

    i'm a 17 yr old f and live with my bro ( 20 yr's ) in our parents house.

    I usually get the bashing lol
    But that's because i'm a nightmare for my parents :/

    Just saying try to get out more,call up some friends meet new people etc.

    Good luck

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're a nightmare for everyone else too.

    DEMON WITH WINGS!!

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    i'll not show my wrath on you this time..to prove i'm not a nightmare for anyone but my parents

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Birdy+Aug 4 2003, 03:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Aug 4 2003, 03:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i'll not show my wrath on you this time..to prove i'm not a nightmare for anyone but my parents

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh bah, my carefully laid plans foiled!
  • eDeneDen Join Date: 2003-03-27 Member: 14923Banned
    i am the penai commander

    my dad hates me being this and reguarly lies and says he's the penai god <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> < PENAI
  • ClintClint Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18816Members
    Well, I guess you could call me a rebel. When my parents give me crap, for something out of the ordinary, I'll give them crap back. So far I sound like a problem child, but that could be the case. The other day, my mom gave me crap for drinking Pepsi. Now boys and girls, it's a Pepsi. No I'm not fat, or really skinny. No I don't excercise, maybe do a few push-up, sit-ups here and there, but that's about it! Now, back on to the Pepsi thrashing. So here I am, and wammo. She goes nuts. I just laughed at her. Usually this results in my dad coming in the room, and grabbing me and telling me that's not nice, while I have a pound of his saliva on my nose, for the outrageous outburst. I swore at my dead, if he ever grabbed me again, and hurt me, I'd hurt him back. I'm not saying you should try this, but in my case, I fought back. I'll tell the story a little bit later on, I'll just try to help you out here, and do the best I can.

    Buddy, girlfriend problems? You're 16. Not to mention the fact, I'm 15, but what the hell. You have your WHOLE life ahead of you. You're brother, being 14 himself, basically means that girlfriends, arn't girlfriends. There more like makeout buddies, and you only phone them if you're really horny and need some lovin'. Real girlfriends won't do that. Real boyfriend's wouldn't do that to their girlfriend's if they honestly cared about them anyway. Don't worry about your little brother. In all honesty, I'd ignore him, and never help when he gets older, and you're running the show, with some multi-millionaire comapny. Screw the young pest you call your brother. Friend trouble you say?

    Well my good man, this so-called friend trouble of yours, usually happens to a lot of people around the world, day in, day out! What you need to do is find someone who actually cares about what you like, how you feel. Basically somebody who can sit down with you and talk about ANYTHING. Without laughing, or bashing you in anyway. My friends are the people online I've been hanging out with since my online gaming debut. Sure this sounds nerdy, but the guys I hang out with listen to anything. Well, besides this guy Leusent, he'll have none of it. I'm not saying to go post an ad on the street, in-titled "Need friends, please be my friend!" I'll be moving in a year to Calgary, to reside with my brothers who both recently moved away to due, "reasons.." which I cannot state on the internet, har har har! I have never found a good friend either buddy. I have never found someone. Life sucks in all honesty. The only I can suggest to you, is be yourself, and not try to be like anyone else. This is the only way you can approach somebody, or somebody approach you about "friendship". There is no wrong way to make friends, unless it's something out of stupidity, or popularity. I myself, used to hang out with a bunch of dickwads, but I left the group, it was useless. Do yourself the favour, and never talk to those people again, and never meet up with them or anything.

    I'm not a Dr.Phil or anything, and I don't have my TV show, but I'm hoping this stuff helps you, in all honesty.

    Now, back to your dad. You're 16, you don't need to hang out with your dad anymore. You have better things to do! (Like Natural-Selection!.....)
    I sit up in my room, 10-12 hours a day, chatting, writing, and gaming. I still have the odd friend phoning thing, but it's useless. It's summer holidays, take a break from all those idiots you see at school. Well that's just my opinion on the matter. But your dad is puzzling me. Did he recently loose a family member, or a close friend? If so, he'll probably take it out on you because your the oldest, and he knows you can take the pain, because you've been taking it ever since the begining. You've always been there since day 1. The day he could yell at you, and you'd look at him with a straight face, then proceed to cry on your way outside, sort of deal. Find somewhere, where you can go, and release your anger. For me that would be my guitar. I have so many songs, with all my feelings in them. When I play them I cry sometimes, and wonder.. holy crap, am I in some need of help? But you're not. We just have little mix-ups along the road of life. It's the way it's meant to be. Just take it one step at a time man, and fight the parent power!

    Regarding your dad, aswell. If he ever, and I mean, ever touches you and hurts you. Do me a favour and bitchslap him upside the head. Who cares if your the oldest, he shouldn't be taking this crap out on you, even if he did loose somebody. But again, just nod, and agree. It's basically the only thing you can do in a situation like this. Remember, he's the father, you're the son. So this adds upto; Obey me son, or I shall pwn you. Just have none of it, block it aside. But remember still nod your head, and agree!

    But the story about my dad, won't come until a later day. This isn't about my dad, it's about yours. Remember this, if you need someone to talk to, message me on AIM. I'll be glad to listen to you. No seriously, I would be. You can find my profile name, inside my forum profile. Well, friend, I hope this stuff helps you.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    I feel you diablus...

    One time, I came in the house complimenting my mother how well it smelled, and asked if she was cooking crab.

    My father thought I said crap and so when I went to sit down at the table, he yelled at me at like 100 decibels.

    I reacted and said piece of ****, ****....ya know...He thought I called him a piece of **** and threw a huge turkey glass plate at my neck and soon afterwards I had to go to a hospital and get big stitched on my 2 and half inch scar, which is right now infecting... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Do I hate him? No, I don't hate him, and I forgive for what he did to me. It was misunderstanding after another and in the end we said sorry and forgave each other. I believe that the ability to show grace and love is far more better than not talking to him for the next 10 years or whatnot that a lot of people do.

    Our family has a lot of problems and stress, but we get through in the end.

    So my suggestion to you, is to talk one on one with your father and ask him what he wants from you and what you want from him. That is if he is willing to talk things over. If that doesn't work, don't proceed to act rebellous or **** off towards your dad, surprise him and act like an example/role model to your brother. Impress him and show him your good human qualities.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Aug 3 2003, 08:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Aug 3 2003, 08:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> man, my dad gets me so **** it makes me sick today i cut the grass outside while my bro was watching TV, then afterward i do more chores outside, while my bro is stil lwatching TV. then now were heading off the the gym, we have to take my brother somewhere around 30 min away from the gym, i say why is he going so far? in a questionable vice, he flips on me and starts yelling and says im so distrespectful and blah blah and contunuesly bashes me in front of anyone whos around, even after i stop he still bashes me for another 15 minutes non stop, i usually have to end it by saying some bad things outloud to him so the fight would end and i would be punished instead of embarrased even more, and now whenever my brother bothers me,hits me and i hit himmback or yell at him I am the one who gets in rouble if i hit him back, meanwhile hes laughing at me while my dad flips on me, im pretttty dam shure this will get locked or delted, but i really dunt care im just letting it all out becuase of what just happened... again, anyone else have this problem? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> too bad life ISNT fair being the older one <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know how you feel...

    I'm in 11th grade, and I've played varsity football for 2 years. This year, i was hit hella weird during one of the football games, and I had to have surgery on it. (my right knee). Ever since surgery, I've thought about football 24/7.
    "Should I play this year?"
    "What if my knee isn't ready"
    "What if I hurt my knee again, I'll be screwed for life"
    "Is highschool football really that important"
    I questioned everything.

    Just lately, I told my Dad-coaches-family members that I wasn't playing. My coaches flip out on me saying how if it was them they would play, and how I need to take it like a man and that I'm just scared of the conditioning and hitting. I was like, alright screw you too. So then I told my sister/mom/friends/cousins....they all agreed saying that if it was any of them, there was no way in hell they'd play again because it's only highschool, and if someone dosn't like the fact you arent playing, then screw them.

    Okay....So now I tell my dad, which BTW took several months because my dad is so proud of me playing football and supports me so much...I could already see my dad's face. I told him I wasnt playing (about 2 months ago) and he said he would support me no matter what I did because he loves me more than anything in the world. I really did believe him...

    Come 2 or 3 months later (now) he calls me while he's at work, and asks me if I'm going to play football. I told him no, and jesus christ...you'd think the world was over.
    "Your a **** just like the other quiters that play"
    "I can't believe i razed you to be a quiter."
    "Why can't you just be like your friends and play sports"

    I dont cry EVER, but when he said that, I just lost it. I dont think ive ever cried so much in my life <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Anyways, I told him I hated him and I never wanted to see him again. (He's in a forein country working at the moment)

    It's been 1 week since I told him I hated him and stuff, and he hasn't called or sent an email. I honestly meant every word I said. How could somone that you've looked up to your whole life, turn into such a ****. My dad has been my idol for as long as I can remember and he said all those hurtful things to me.

    Every night before I go to bed, I've thought about running away or the worst....I wish parents knew how hurtful the slightest (and worst) words could mean to a child...especially one of their own.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    I am soo glad I don't have any complex moral issues with my father, I simply hate his guts. It's really very simple, he's an ****, he's an addict, he cheats on my mom, and he breaks every promise he makes.

    Here's a little story about my Dad, and it even has something to do with NS!

    Alright, when I went to the release party my Dad was my ride home, the second I get in the car, he starts to complain about how he had to drive all this way, and how he's gone down there so much this week, blah blah blah, so then what does he do? Whips out a bowl, and tells me to hold the wheel. That's right, my dad started toking up a little ways out of Boston while driving me home. And then he asks me "Do you get high?" and the next day he has the nerve to lecture my sister about hanging out with kids that smoke. I hate him, plain and simple.
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