Those Damn Hackers...

KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
<div class="IPBDescription">anyone else getting this?</div> Since I got my awsome new computer <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I've been getting these which boot me out of a good game of battlefield 1942,ns etc... my new comp came with norton anti virus and internet security with firewall etc. Now I've never had these types of programs on my comp before cause they screwed with my online gaming, anyways I decided to leave them on for the hell of it to try it out again.

Well this is what I keep getting that boots me out of games, some **** kiddies with some stupid sub**** (Im not gonna say the name of it cause other people will get it ) hacker program keep trying to get access to my comp I've had five attacks already and one other attack that worked into getting my comp to restart in 60 seconds cause I disabled those damn programs for like five minutes to do something sheesh this is the latest attack:

<img src='http://www.frailart.net/members/Killymagee/hackers.JPG' border='0' alt='user posted image'>


Does anyone else get this crap?? its pissin me off! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    edited August 2003
    Make sure you have the latest service pack. Sounds almost like a winnuke program (abuses security hole in Windows to make it short).

    *Edit*

    You might also want to invest in a router. Typically idiots will go and attack the router instead of your computer because thats the only IP they can get.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    umm just buy a SMC barracade Broadband routwer ($40 US) and dump the crappy software firewall.

    PS Yeah make sure you use live update and disable the damn thing when you are gaming. I'm sure you dont have any government secrets to protect on your system
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    Thats the first thing I do when I boot up my comp is check for updates. But I think its kinda neeto to see exactly where they are there ip info etc hehe, but that is IF they are not running through mutliple ips of other computers they've infected. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GreyPaws+Aug 6 2003, 12:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Aug 6 2003, 12:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> umm just buy a SMC barracade Broadband routwer ($40 US) and dump the crappy software firewall.

    PS Yeah make sure you use live update and disable the damn thing when you are gaming. I'm sure you dont have any government secrets to protect on your system <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes your right, I don't have any government stuff, but thats not what there after they can delete my hard drive, turn on my webcam etc. I looked up what this sub***** program can do and its scary. Hell they can even have a window up that shows them your desktop and what your doing! also have access to your harddrive the same as you, they just delete your windows directory and your screwed! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    run a virus scan, it will catch subseven and erase it for ya.
  • KillymageeKillymagee Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3136Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Aug 6 2003, 12:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Aug 6 2003, 12:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> run a virus scan, it will catch subseven and erase it for ya. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The thing is I got attacked by subseven even AFTER I did a virus scan and checked in the registery for subseven..! is perodic about three times a week or so.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    Seriously, a good router will take care of everything for you. I've got two heavy-use computers, plus my FTP/web server and my development server all safely behind the router's (<i>Linksys Cable/DSL Router, BEFSR41</i>) firewall, and I've never had anything even get to take a peek unless I open the ports to allow it.

    I've even had a friend of mine, a network admin guru with 10 years experience, try and poke a hole in my network from outside. He could barely even see the router! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    Subseven requires you to download and use a trojan horse executable in order to be vulnerable (at least thats how it was the last time I saw it, it might have changed now, I hope not).... So the best way to stop it is to prevent yourself from being infected in the first place, I suggest using norton to remove it, and then downloading a good non intrusive firewall that you can have on permanently (like, say... <a href='http://www.zonelabs.com' target='_blank'>ZoneAlarm</a>), if you <i>still</i> get attacked, then buy yourself a router.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'll never understand what you people do to make script kiddies single you out among the millions of computers on the internet :P
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    For note: These are not hackers, they're crackers. Hackers hack for the sake of having fun. Crackers hack to annoy/damage people/things.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Aug 6 2003, 06:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 6 2003, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll never understand what you people do to make script kiddies single you out among the millions of computers on the internet <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You say this DOOM.... and your an Op.....


    ....


    ...

    .

    ?_?
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Aug 6 2003, 11:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Aug 6 2003, 11:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For note: These are not hackers, they're crackers. Hackers hack for the sake of having fun. Crackers hack to annoy/damage people/things. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    or they are peepers - they do it to see if they can.

    just hope they are not vandals...
  • Mr-StabbyMr-Stabby Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14401Banned
    this has happened to me many times, but since i setup a network with a cisco router and symantec firewall, nothing like that has ever happened. Software Firewalls are pants in my opinion, you can get a hardware one cheaper than a software one nowadays
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Aug 6 2003, 05:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Aug 6 2003, 05:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> For note: These are not hackers, they're crackers. Hackers hack for the sake of having fun. Crackers hack to annoy/damage people/things. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They're not crackers. The general definition of a cracker is someone who breaks or "cracks" codes and encryption, and so on. Crackers are rarely malicious, it's hard to be malicious when all they really do is "open up" things.

    EDIT: Also, hackers aren't usually hacking for the fun of it. A lot of hacking can be for personal development, challenging themselves. A new form of security, for example, wouldn't so much be fun to hack, but a learning experience above all things. Usually hackers are hacking for experience or information, but yes, occasionally for the fun of it.

    But, the general "fun" type of "hacker" isn't a hacker at all really. I guess there's a lot of arrogance and pretentiousness in the hacking community. I'm not a part of it, but i feel the need to stress the fact that some 14 year old 3r337 h4x0r using some crappy script like sub7 or back oriface are not hackers. They're script kiddies, they're using pre-made "h4x" to show how good they are, usually their behaviour is malicious, and most of the time they're arseholes. Please don't credit them as hackers, hackers on the whole, <b>REAL</b> hackers, are intelligent people and are not just out to winnuke some random stranger for kicks.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited August 2003
    Actually, a "hacker" is someone who loves computers, in particular pushing them to their limits. Software hackers are elite programmers (not l337 programmers. 1337sp34k developed from crackers, not hackers). Look <a href='http://info.astrian.net/jargon/' target='_blank'>here</a> for more details.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    edited August 2003
    Actually, it's quite likely a worm. There's a new one going around... Win98/ME machines appear to not contain the hole in use, but WinNT, 2000, and XP are all affected.

    In general, symptoms include (on NT/2000) svchost.exe dying, and taking the machine with it noiselessly if you aren't trying to use it. If you are, the system keels over slowly and you tend to have no idea why.
    XP usually reports that the RPC process threw an error, and that the Generic Host Process has crashed. System shutting down in 30 seconds.

    Personally, I laugh because all my machines are protected by a Linux NAT (which these 'home routers' tend to simply be an embedded version of). Unfortunately, I've already had five or six friends call, IM, or PM me, all screaming that they have a hacker in their machine, when it just seems to be a stupid worm. Not ruling it out for anyone else, but it appears to be a new, very prolific little ****.

    ZoneAlarm will stop it, but most virus scanners will not catch the bugger until the damage has been done, and it's already bounced to another machine.

    GG, Microsoft. Way to go on that 'security and reliability' thing.


    (edit: Additionally, 'leetspeak' did not generate from either hackers nor crackers, in its rudimentary form. It is simply secure-password typing, working in numerals and extra-alphanumeric characters into a password while keeping it memorizable. However, adding the '-xxor' crud at the end was more due to morons evading swear and language filters. It caught on and became trendy.
    Scriptkiddies are nothing but trend-wh*res.)
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    If you check your logs im sure you will find tons of attacks against your computer.
    Most are blocked simply because you have a solid OS that is updated.

    What most of these are from are people employing BOTs to search for unprotected computers.
    Figure out what port they are hitting, Killy..., and block it. Unless you are running some critical service on that port. There normally is not a reason to keep more than 3-4 ports open at a time. (for most users)
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Aug 6 2003, 07:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Aug 6 2003, 07:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually, a "hacker" is someone who loves computers, in particular pushing them to their limits. Software hackers are elite programmers (not l337 programmers. 1337sp34k developed from crackers, not hackers). Look <a href='http://info.astrian.net/jargon/' target='_blank'>here</a> for more details.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1. One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a computer buff.
    2. One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer network or file.
    3. One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis hacker.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In the future, please check your sources before you claim something as fact.
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    edited August 2003
    sub7 is a trojan. it coems in the form of an infected program file, exe or com, and you have to run it. manytimes it will come as a cool little game, because it can put itself on top of an existing executable to appear legitimate. but really in the 0.002 seconds load time it is infecting you with its runtime files. stick to a 386 machine and youll notice the strange lag times that are a virus infecting your files. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    but sub7 is really a lot of fun. once it gets in, it can give complete control to anyone who knows your ip, port, and password (port and pass the attacker can specify on the deployment program) and then they have more control over you than a remote desktop connection. it will only damage what the attacker wants it to damage.

    i know because i did it to some friends of mine as a warning to install a virusscanner, which should EASILY see the infected exe and tell you not to run it.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Aug 6 2003, 12:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Aug 6 2003, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Aug 6 2003, 07:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Aug 6 2003, 07:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually, a "hacker" is someone who loves computers, in particular pushing them to their limits. Software hackers are elite programmers (not l337 programmers. 1337sp34k developed from crackers, not hackers). Look <a href='http://info.astrian.net/jargon/' target='_blank'>here</a> for more details.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1. One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a computer buff.
    2. One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer network or file.
    3. One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis hacker.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In the future, please check your sources before you claim something as fact. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What are your sources? You certainly didn't use that link he posted, and your quote isn't attributed, so your "check your sources" doesn't mean anything to me.

    Oh, and yes, hacker does mean someone skilled in using computers and not some stupid kid who likes to break passwords. If you don't think so, I've got some PO'ed 40 year old computer pioneers in an IRC room who'll change your mind. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    So if a hacker is someone who has great skill with computers, then to hack would be to use computers with great skill?
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Aug 6 2003, 10:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Aug 6 2003, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What are your sources? You certainly didn't use that link he posted, and your quote isn't attributed, so your "check your sources" doesn't mean anything to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I copy/pasted that from <a href='http://www.dictionary.com' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com</a>, Webster's and Oxford also back it up. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    No offense man, but Webster's and Oxford have no pertinent connection whatsoever to the internet community that spawned the word. They are just going off of the common misconception.
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    Funny how an online community spawned the word, seems kinda improbable, especially when you consider that it was around before the internet.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Aug 6 2003, 04:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Aug 6 2003, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Funny how an online community spawned the word, seems kinda improbable, especially when you consider that it was around before the internet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    2 of your 3 definitions are Internet-related, and the third is no longer used in conversation. And it still doesn't change the fact that the original Internet definiton of the word was number one, and the second one was just the layman's misconception of the term.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Aug 7 2003, 02:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Aug 7 2003, 02:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Gadzuko+Aug 6 2003, 10:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Aug 6 2003, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What are your sources?  You certainly didn't use that link he posted, and your quote isn't attributed, so your "check your sources" doesn't mean anything to me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I copy/pasted that from <a href='http://www.dictionary.com' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com</a>, Webster's and Oxford also back it up. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's the common usage, which isn't accurate. Nyah.

    Did you even read *any* of the link I posted?
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    Seven easy steps to solve any problem related to persons:

    Step 1 : Get a air line ticket to [location].
    Step 2: When at [location], buy a gun, and gloves from seperate stores; steal the gloves if you want.
    Step 3: Visit the person(s) house, and murder them.
    Step 4: Dispose of the gun.
    Step 5: Get home on another airline trip.
    Step 6: Dispose of the gloves when you arive at the air terminal.
    Step 7: Go home and know that you made the world alittle bit better.

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    PS: DO NOT TRY AT HOME!

    Really though, send a hack back to his computer, and change your IP.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    could they be using a remote proxy (I think thats what it's called?) where he could be in reality down the street from you, but to your IP thing it seems like he's in, say madrid?
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    The "common usage" I used in that quote is no more right or wrong than that which you used, according to your site anyway:<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hacking might be characterized as `an appropriate application of ingenuity'. Whether the result is a quick-and-dirty patchwork job or a carefully crafted work of art, you have to admire the cleverness that went into it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    A "hacker" would be one who performs said act of ingenuity, not necessarily having anything to do with computers, "One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer network or file" holds just as much water as "someone who loves computers" as does the slang definitions on that site (none).
    Rule # 2 of arguements: If you cant prove yourself right, prove your enemy wrong.
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