R0ar ! For The Hive Mind!

strangepIMPINstrangepIMPIN Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15045Members
<div class="IPBDescription">new feature for skulks</div> Im sorry for posting my suggestion here, but the suggestions forum is closed and i really had to contribute my idea !

I think getting resources for doing kills as skulk is great, because u dont depend that much on the team anymore, !_BUT_ ! i noticed that in the early skulking phase of the game, there is almost NO teamwork among skulks ! Everyone is trying to get as much kills as possible to be ONOS soon ! And i have to tell you it really SUCKS ! Teamplay among beginner aliens is suffering ! It should be made easier for them, to start enhancing their teamplay skills by attacking (or defending) together as skulks !

So this is my idea:

The Skulks should be less powerful when acting alone. How can we achieve this ? By weakening the skulk a bit and adding the possibility to get a SKULK SWARM BONUS!

Often a skulk wounds a marine and dies, and a second skulk will get the kill(and the resources)by hitting the marine one time only ! The first skulk did lots of damage to the marine, but he loses all upgrades, has to restart at the hive and even doesnt get resources ! So the Skulks should get a SWARM BONUS for killing in swarms of 2 or more skulks ! For example, the ones who wounded the victim get one res afterwards, and the one who kills him gets 3 ! One dead marine would be worth more resources for the alien team when killed by a skulk SWARM ! Afther the kill, all members of the skulk swarm could do a kind of "victory roar" automatically (im thinking of a sentence like "for the hive mind!" or something like that, it could be a kinda grunt sound, too. This loud roar will show the aliens (and the marines) how good the teamwork of the aliens is! And as another advantage, incoming marines would be warned properly when a teammate was killed some seconds ago by a SKULK SWARM ! He will expect more than 1 skulk, that would raise the intensity of group fights, too !

As a fan of teamplay i'd really love to see such a kind of swarm bonus for the skulks. IT WOULD IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE BEST ONLINE GAME SO MUCH !

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Comments

  • gc_phillehgc_philleh Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18898Members
    There already is a skulk swarm bonus.

    1 skulk vs 1 marine = marine win
    4 skulks vs 1 marine = skulks win.

    Simple <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    The res for kills thing annoyed me at first "omg kill steal0r!!" was said to me often, then i thought who cares really <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    As it stands 1 skulk v 4 marines can still come out on top, but more often than not 1 skulk v 1 marine will lose, just depends on skill of the players really. Alot of skulks together helps without FF, FF on and skulks beging getting res for killing other skulks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    In the last game I killed for rines (that were in a group) that was soooooo much fun I even hadn't any upgrades ^^

    Just wait in a dark corner (not on the ground) wait till the last one passes jump out bite 2 to death jump back to security wait a bit and than jump out again and bite the others. Ok I really had much luck but hey it works! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • gc_phillehgc_philleh Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18898Members
    Ive not done a 4 since r_drawviewmodel 1 got locked <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> cant see anything anymore.
  • mojojojomojojojo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2017Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DarkFrost+Aug 6 2003, 01:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkFrost @ Aug 6 2003, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Alot of skulks together helps without FF, FF on and skulks beging getting res for killing other skulks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hang on, are you saying in tourney mode that aliens get res for killing other aliens?

    That would be silly. Sorry.
  • DarkFrostDarkFrost Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15154Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Silly but true <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    lol If I attack in a big ol group Im usually up front leading the charge so i can take all the lead for the team and draw off the enemy fire.


    Then i die <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But I helped the team! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--::gc.philleh::+Aug 6 2003, 12:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::gc.philleh:: @ Aug 6 2003, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ive not done a 4 since r_drawviewmodel 1 got locked <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> cant see anything anymore. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Try spacing out your bites. You'll get used to it.

    (I'm not talking from experience. I hated this in 1.04.)
  • strangepIMPINstrangepIMPIN Join Date: 2003-03-30 Member: 15045Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--::gc.philleh::+Aug 6 2003, 07:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::gc.philleh:: @ Aug 6 2003, 07:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ive not done a 4 since r_drawviewmodel 1 got locked <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> cant see anything anymore. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    FF issue: I NEVER played on a public server that had FF ON !! Only in clanwars !! And it has nothing to do with that skulk bonus idea, too ! Please stick to the topic !

    Of course its always better for the team to attack together, but do YOU wait for other skulks to kill a marine together <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> I DON'T ! I would try to kill him alone to get the res ! With that skulk swarm bonus reward, you might think about waiting for others (or even for beginners who are a bit slower at moving through the map) to do the job ! If they attack with other skulks, they will get resources even if they hit the marine only 1 time ! and dont forget that victory grunt thing ! It would give a great teamplay experience to aliens, improving the hive mind inside the heads of the players !


    btw drawviewmodel is for noobs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • gc_phillehgc_philleh Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18898Members
    Are a skulks eyes in his mouth?

    Anyway I am getting better, ive already started getting around 2 kills per death as skulk on average which is much better than when i started having to use the teeth. Its not gonna be a major hinderance.. just a big change in how the game feels to me.
  • FrikkFrikk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3164Members, Constellation
    Then you probably shouldn't have started using it in the first place <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> . Despite what you may think you aren't the first person to ask if they are in his mouth.
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    This is the wrong forum, and the right forum is closed, so perhaps you should wait for the right forum to be open before your post your idea in it, hmm?
  • gc_phillehgc_philleh Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18898Members
    Well i know but i didnt used to read up on ns or tell the future so i didnt know they would make it fixed in the next release... i used it because to me it was easier to use, felt more natural and it benefitted my fps.

    However i did know others have asked about the eyes in the mouth... i still think its a valid point though.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Kindly read the S&I closure notice, by MonsE. If the appropriate forum is closed, that <b>does not</b> mean to post it in another forum.

    <span style='color:red'><b>*LOCKED.*</b></span>
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