Before You Say How Much 2.0 Stinks...

RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">take a look at these forums</div> Currently, there have been a large number of posts on these forums about how much 2.0 sucks, less then a week after release. We also have a lot of would-be experts proclaming how they feel 2.0 would be made better before they wander off to play some other mod again.

This is a short notice to everyone: please don't state you know what would be best for 2.0, and that it is flawed. We allready have had enough people state that they know this mod better the creator. While the opinions of others are appricated, we don't need any more stating that "NS2.0 sux because onos are weak and jetpack cant kill hives!!".

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  • RMB0RMB0 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13294Members
    I think the best thing for NS is letting Flayra and the other Devs do what they think needs to be done, they haven't messed the game up yet and you gotta trust that they won't. Since 2.0 I've had the best games ever. Not a lot I would think to change for balance atm.
  • mATTHEW_KELLYmATTHEW_KELLY Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16642Members
    I suppose the devs dont want a full spectrum of feedback then?

    Dont be foolish

    Id probably prefer ther constructive criticism to bland appraisal. Admittedly the level of negative posts has probably shocked some of you fanboys, but the sad fact of the matter is that ns 2.0 is not all it could have been.

    I dunno though, maybe the game is awesome in clan play.
  • noelephantnoelephant Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13518Members
    I think it just takes some getting used to. The first few games I played of NS 2.0 I wasn't terribly happy with it.

    However, after playing it for a while I've grown to love it.
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--noelephant+Aug 7 2003, 07:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (noelephant @ Aug 7 2003, 07:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think it just takes some getting used to. The first few games I played of NS 2.0 I wasn't terribly happy with it.

    However, after playing it for a while I've grown to love it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is how I felt... It seemed to me like the Dev team had changed all the things I enjoyed in 1.04 and made them worse... But now I'm getting used to everything and I'm enjoying it more.

    The main thing I want to see changed is the delay between changing weapons... That annoys me rotten <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Other than that, there has been a load of posts similar to this, "before you say anything bad, blah blah." Maybe keep them all in one post <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RMB0RMB0 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13294Members
    They will want our input, but maybe after everyone gets used to the changes and learns the new style and skills
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Redford+Aug 7 2003, 06:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Aug 7 2003, 06:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Currently, there have been a large number of posts on these forums about how much 2.0 sucks, less then a week after release. We also have a lot of would-be experts proclaming how they feel 2.0 would be made better before they wander off to play some other mod again.

    This is a short notice to everyone: please don't state you know what would be best for 2.0, and that it is flawed. We allready have had enough people state that they know this mod better the creator. While the opinions of others are appricated, we don't need any more stating that "NS2.0 sux because onos are weak and jetpack cant kill hives!!". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you actually care to listen, we're debating it. We're pinpointing the new patch weaknesses and I kinda agree with them. No need for this post or your over-defensively attitude
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    Redford is not talking about ppl disscussing changes to the beta or ideas ppl have, he is talking about ppl who come one with Hatchling status and BASH NS saying things like
    "NS sucks now, its not any good, 1.04 was so much better, flayra messed it up"
    Crap like that is just useless or stuff like
    "The JP is crappy, and now that you can't even fly with a gun larger than an LMG its got no point, Change this to be able to hold a GL or and HMG, that will make things better"
    Ignorant ppl who post things like that are just being stupid!
    The WORST thing in 1.04 was the JP/HMG rush, nothing could be done to stop it and the fun was ruined by it.

    Flayra has made a nicely balanced game, if you can't see that or think otherwise its becasue you are not use to the game yet. If you think 1.04 was much better, you are not use to the game yet. If you think team are totally unbalanced, you are not use to the game yet.

    Until you can play a game, lose and not whine about balance, you have not adapted to the new style of play!

    Back off of Flayra, some things need changing, thats why hes made these new betas, go play a beta server one that says "2.01b" in the tittle, until you try out the changes and are use to the game play, DONT **** ABOUT IT!
    The game has been out for a week, not everyone is a quick learner and its usually the slow adapters that will bad mouth the game becasue they can't seem to have fun with it yet!
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    For every constructive comment made ther are four "Fix <my favorite overpowered thing from 1.04> or everyone will leave the mod!!!111" types of posts. I am reasonably sure this is what Redford is refering too.
  • TinkTink Join Date: 2003-01-24 Member: 12690Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Aug 7 2003, 08:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Aug 7 2003, 08:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...ppl who come one with Hatchling status and... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It is not compulsary to sign on to the boards in order to play NS. Your number of posts or time you have been here is no real indicator of how long you have played... - Tink
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    Personally, I must of been one of the few who thought that 1.04 was god awful (once the novelty wore off) and 2.0 is brilliant except in the stalemate department.
  • stellerwindsstellerwinds Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16459Members, Constellation
    Ditta that mathew kelly.

    This "shut your mouth if you dont have anything good to say" stinks like yesterday's garbage. In two weeks it will be a new excuse why we are all too stupid to know what we are talking about.
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--stellerwinds+Aug 7 2003, 08:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (stellerwinds @ Aug 7 2003, 08:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ditta that mathew kelly.

    This "shut your mouth if you dont have anything good to say" stinks like yesterday's garbage. In two weeks it will be a new excuse why we are all too stupid to know what we are talking about. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually when in two weeks I realised that yes, DoD 1.0 sucked all manner of ****, I thought "I'm not going to bother bitching" and just left. Everything I would of said had been said by that time and I just left the mod to the many who remained and (probably) still enjoy it now.

    What I found in 2 weeks were people who complained were called bitter, n00bs or told to leave.

    I took the 3rd option myself without saying anything.
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