<b>THAT YOU COMPLAIN TOO MUCH</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+Aug 9 2003, 02:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ Aug 9 2003, 02:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And we wanted people to get used to 2.0 but everybody complained instead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats what I said.
<!--QuoteBegin--altairian+Aug 9 2003, 03:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (altairian @ Aug 9 2003, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the problem with marines in pub is the reliance on the commander. There just aren't enough good commanders out there who are willing to command all the time. Plus the fact that newbies don't understand that they actually have to *gasp* <i>follow orders</i> in order to win. =\ With the alien team you just need people who are team players and willing to gorge early to put up an RT and then two guys who will gorge all game to put up hives and chambers and such. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Agreed, its gets very tiresome comming too much. It gets to be quite a burden.
<!--QuoteBegin--Soberana+Aug 9 2003, 07:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soberana @ Aug 9 2003, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am i the only who thinks....
<b>THAT YOU COMPLAIN TOO MUCH</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows you're nothing but a troll.
Its a combination of factors that lead to the kharaa dominance, like most experienced players prefer the variety of the alien abilities, and comming well is a tough thing to do. if you get a marine team full of fps players, even is someone's willing they arent going to be able to comm effectively.
Or maybe marines just need a new plasma flame launcher or something x]
anyone ever wonder why futuristic marines don't have futuristic weapons? It would certainly create more marine weapon diversity. all you have to do is tweak the HMG a little so that it fires some sort of glowing bullet. Call it a heavy plasma repeater. whatever. keep all the stats the same, even all the current graphics and animations would fit (except the bullet part, which in part does look glowy, so make it brighter) and change the sound a little. Bam instant cool marine weapon. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
anyway i know none of this will go into effect but it still is fun to talk about. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
Marine teams commenly on pubs unfortunatly have a rather large number of new players, I agree with that. I tend to find some good coms out there however, but I can speak from first hand experiance about the frustration of being a com. "Move to your waypoint". Total lack of movement, except for the endless sounds of refilling ammo at the armoury. "HA's, stick together and weld each other, I want you to move to hive X". I'm lucky if 2 people stick together. Sometimes it works, sometimes you get a team working together, but so often you don't. Possibly the recent influx of new players has a lot to do with this.
I don't think though that 2.0 is purely unbalanced because of the lack of experiance on marine teams. As has been said, in clan matches etc aliens are dominating, which suggests that even with experianced players the marines are still disadvantaged. Alien expansion is very fast now, as is the 2nd hive which tends to spell doom for any fortified res points. I believe this can be easily fixed however which is why I'm actively participating in the beta.
I agree Ryo. the influx of n00bs is very annoying since they are all used to RAMBO style FPS. infact all the other FPS i play are pretty much all rambo. The only teamwork is when people jsut happen to be in the same area. there should be a little "shock marine" button for the commander to let him know he isn't doing what he is supposed to. maybe limit it to once every 10 seconds and take 1 hp from him and make his viewscreen spaz out..... erm forget that last part i guees i got caried away. lol <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> --------------------> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> --------------> BZZT <-------------- <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> ___________________________________________ <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> --->
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<b>THAT YOU COMPLAIN TOO MUCH</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thats what I said.
With the alien team you just need people who are team players and willing to gorge early to put up an RT and then two guys who will gorge all game to put up hives and chambers and such. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed, its gets very tiresome comming too much. It gets to be quite a burden.
<b>THAT YOU COMPLAIN TOO MUCH</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows you're nothing but a troll.
Or maybe marines just need a new plasma flame launcher or something x]
anyway i know none of this will go into effect but it still is fun to talk about. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't think though that 2.0 is purely unbalanced because of the lack of experiance on marine teams. As has been said, in clan matches etc aliens are dominating, which suggests that even with experianced players the marines are still disadvantaged. Alien expansion is very fast now, as is the 2nd hive which tends to spell doom for any fortified res points. I believe this can be easily fixed however which is why I'm actively participating in the beta.
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