Catching Virii From Infected/malicious Servers?

R7X3R7X3 Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8395Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Ever had it happen?</div>Recently I disposed of an annoying virus, and considering that I didnt download/transfer anything suspicious recently, I'm curious if it wasent a file that a server forced me to download (map files, sounds, ect).

if anyone has ever contracted a virus from a malicious/infected server, I'd like to hear about it.
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  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    This is a ridiculous notion. I've never heard of something like this before.
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  • HypergripHypergrip Suspect Germany Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9689Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Well it's not that ridiculous at all.
    You could use the .res files to make clients download any file from your server... and with the right plugins installed you may also be able to execute that file "activating" a virus that way.

    BUT

    I've never heared of such a thing.
    And even if a server admin would do such a thing, a good virus scanner would/should immediatly react (and everybody SHOULD use a virus scanner).

    So you see: it IS possible, but not very likely...

    Hyper
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  • JohnnySmashJohnnySmash Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18870Members
    I went in a gme and the servar must have had a vires b/c all the othr team got trnsformed into aleins like their wuz this one that cuold walk on teh walls and a flying oen and my norten antivires didnt find it so watch out!!!!!!!!

    -JohnnySmash
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  • ShoCorezShoCorez Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18548Members
    -_- A virus would most unlikely make everyone aliens or flying onos.... it's probably some plugin someone made. I mean look at what Voogru can do! Armories giving health, manable turrets, etc...
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  • JohnnySmashJohnnySmash Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18870Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShoCorez+Aug 11 2003, 03:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShoCorez @ Aug 11 2003, 03:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> -_- A virus would most unlikely make everyone aliens or flying onos.... it's probably some plugin someone made.  I mean look at what Voogru can do!  Armories giving health, manable turrets, etc... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No im not kidding check it out message board has vires too:

    All normel guys look fine like this rihgt?: <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But vires make othar team leek funny aleins kinda like this:
    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->

    So I on servar "Stop yuor haxxes you h4x3rz!!!!!" and they kick me off and it like admin abus so im not vary happy rihgt now!!!!!!!!!!!

    -JohnnySmash
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    Yeah I recently discovered how important it is to run a virus checker, I used to stop it running for those extra few FPS but now it stays on all the time, just in case <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    ... and remember to update your subscription. I got a virus exactly four days after mine ran out. I'm sure Symantec sent it to me.
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  • RokiyoRokiyo A.K.A. .::FeX::. Revenge Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1471Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShoCorez+Aug 11 2003, 08:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShoCorez @ Aug 11 2003, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> -_- A virus would most unlikely make everyone aliens or flying onos.... it's probably some plugin someone made. I mean look at what Voogru can do! Armories giving health, manable turrets, etc... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    :/

    I see humour is a totally alien concept to you....
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  • R7X3R7X3 Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8395Members
    Har Har.
    I'm not talking about something that affects gameplay.
    someone could put a keystroke logger, or generally annoying virus on your computer using a NS server with a little effort, as Hypergrip explained.

    Granted it isnt likely, unless the server op hated NS (i.e.the creator of the Q3 aimbot's explaination for his actions "i hate Q3 blahblahblah blippity blah") or wanted to install a worm, trojan, ect that could be activated later on in order to **** you off/get back at you if you did something like devour him/tear him apart ingame.
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  • PykmiPykmi Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15473Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--JohnnySmash+Aug 11 2003, 03:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JohnnySmash @ Aug 11 2003, 03:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All normel guys look fine like this rihgt?: <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But vires make othar team leek funny aleins kinda like this:
    <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->

    So I on servar "Stop yuor haxxes you h4x3rz!!!!!" and they kick me off and it like admin abus so im not vary happy rihgt now!!!!!!!!!!!

    -JohnnySmash <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The other team is supposed to look like that ^^
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  • EzekielEzekiel Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3006Members
    weee another naruto fan <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--JohnnySmash+Aug 11 2003, 03:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JohnnySmash @ Aug 11 2003, 03:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I went in a gme and the servar must have had a vires b/c all the othr team got trnsformed into aleins like their wuz this one that cuold walk on teh walls and a flying oen and my norten antivires didnt find it so watch out!!!!!!!!

    -JohnnySmash <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ..
    please
    ...PLEASE be drunk..your setence and spelling grammar...<shudders>
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  • nthingnthing Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3091Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hypergrip+Aug 11 2003, 08:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hypergrip @ Aug 11 2003, 08:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You could use the .res files to make clients download any file from your server... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is it possible to send executables? If not, then it's pretty near impossible. The only way to get a virus in this way was if for some reason you have a program which treats *.bsp files (or wavs, mdl, whatever) as *.vbs files (or some other sort of script file which are run using ANOTHER application).

    Even if you can send executables, I doubt it's possible to create a server side plugin to execute applications on the client's machine, though, I don't know for sure. If you can then it's a major security risk and needs to be fixed.
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  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    Download the file, yes (maybe)... but run it? I'm not so sure. If that was possible, I doubt a virus scanner would detect a custom program made to delete everything in a directory... or a trojan program. If this was true then it's a huge security breach. Therefore I doubt that it could work.
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  • DeathjesterDeathjester Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10030Members
    i dont mean to be a troll, but yes yes and yes u can

    i could go into massive postgrad detail but tbh, simply log into a few servers and wtahc for the login echos " note this server is set to run files on your computer" even my mother on her patronisingly locked-down NT workstation at home can understand that message.

    it worries me that <our computerised society> is still so very naive
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  • lazygamerlazygamer Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
    @original poster

    1)Doesn't matter that you downloaded something RECENTLY. You could of downloaded an infected file much earlier.

    2)Are you using Internet Explorer? Do you at least have IE setup to be semi-secure? What about outlook? IE and Outlook are exploit ridden, I use Mozilla, you should too.
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  • lazygamerlazygamer Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
    You got that message wrong dude, it is:

    Note: This server is set to run commands on your client.

    What is your client? Half-life. Now if you can delete files on someone's harddrive(besides config files for Half-life), or other things, using Half-life, than yes, there is a big security risk there.
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  • nthingnthing Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3091Members
    edited August 2003
    Server admins can run commands on the client, and this means that some amount of damage can be done. Like 'bind mouse1 quit' or 'unbind all', but if you set your config.cfg to read only then this doesn't really matter.

    As for as I know, though, you can't execute files or even upload executables to client machines (though I may be wrong there).
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  • devaldeval Join Date: 2003-08-04 Member: 18876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Aug 11 2003, 03:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Aug 11 2003, 03:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... and remember to update your subscription. I got a virus exactly four days after mine ran out. I'm sure Symantec sent it to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol, looks very like it yeah <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    [grammar nazi]

    It's not <b>virii</b>. For one thing it implies that the singular form is "vir<u>i</u>us" - if you insist on using the -i pluralisation it would need to be "viri" - and for another I don't think these boards have many people posting in Latin. The plural of virus is <b>viruses</b>.

    [/grammar nazi]
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