Commander mode question...

Jammer

<div class="IPBDescription">Not coverd anywhere! i swear (think)!</div>How does commander mode work with multiple layer levels? Half Life IS 3D, but Commander mode is a top-down look. What if I have 2 levels right above each other, and I want to drop ammo on the bottom one? Is there a level focus feature similar to X-Com? Wasn't X-Com a great game? Too bad it hasn't had a worthy sequel.

realityisdead

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Heh, this has been talked about so many times, it's not even funny. <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->


There are no level over level areas in NS maps for this very reason.



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Jammer

Uhhh... sorry. Thanks for answering though.  I've been lurking for a couple months now and I'd never seen the answer.

realityisdead

Heh, well I imagine it was mostly discussed in the mapping/ideas forums... I guess it wouldn't be totally obvious to look there. Whatever. <!--emo&:)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'><!--endemo-->

Good question, it's just been discussed to death along with suggestions on how to implement level over level stuff. The conclusion was that while the idea of having level over level maps may sound cool at first, it would really only have negative effects with more work for the developers and more confusion for the players.



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Cork2

we wouldn't want that now would we hehehe.

Raptor091288

Who said anything about NOT wanting confusion? I'd LOOOVE to join a game and become commander just to give confusing orders to my marine minions, Then, Of course, Get voted out of commander mode or however that works, But, My job would be done, After-all, I caused confusion and suffering, I love doing that.

About the layered-levels: No, It wouldn't be a good idea, It would cause more confusion then i could possible imagine causing in one whole day, And, It would make it too easy for the aliens, Since the commanders gotta watch 2 levels, And, Also give orders on 2 levels etc. so, No it shouldn't be in, Like you guys said, Been discussed to death, So no more talking about it, Period.

Elowind

actually this is answered let me have sum time to dig it up

Elowind

<a href="http://www.planethalflife.com/nsworld/MappingGuide/MappingGuide.ASP#Foreword" target="_blank">http://www.planethalflife.com/nsworld....oreword</a>

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Their should be nowhere in the map that a marine can get to where the commander cannot see and click on him. This often means that you cannot have multiple floors, one over the other or hallways the crossover each other.

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u knwo this is so close that i could have edited.. but im too lazy

Sgt_X

When was this updated, it says the command console entity is brush based and they changed that so they could use a standard CC design.

Comprox

That page is a little wrong, yes. In the MAIN of the level, a commander should alays have control ovr his marines. You may have little walkays overlapping and such tho, there is no problem with that.

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Insane

And in the same way, the any alien-only passages can still be below the commander height, but they can be made func_seethrough's so that it does not obstruct the commander's view.  And they should be nobuilds as well, so the commander can't build things in them <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo-->