Medpacks

see-you-in-disney-landsee-you-in-disney-land Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3241Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">when to ask</div> Early in the game, before you are encountering onos and the such, it is economically inefficient to ask for a med pack if you have MORE then 52 health, as this is the amount of damage a skulk will do to a marine who still has armour (if no upgrades has been purchased). So if you find yourself on 70hp, for example, you can still survive two bites, the same amount as if you still had 100 hp, so new players, PLEASE don't ask for medpacks until your health drops to 52 or below, it isn't worth the two res.
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  • styleestylee Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14802Members
    edited August 2003
    If it's REALLY early game....(like, the start) and your team is rushed at base and you get bit once and kill off the skulk rush, I usually tell my team to kill themselves, saves res even if they were below 52hp
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <i>defending</i>
    As long as they dont get into the habbit of it.

    However wouldn't they do more damage attacking the expanding aliens? Aliens expand too fast as it is, and those few seconds while you wait in the queue (ith the other marines that followed your advice,) may be enough for the alien team to take a key area.

    Despite this, I still think you are being sensible. Make sure to tell people only to kill themselves if they are <i>defending</i> the base;that way no damage is done.
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  • Mjr_BeatingsMjr_Beatings Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11283Members
    Spawning players also cost resources (I think it is 1 res per spawn) so if you take into account the res cost to spawn and the time wasted waiting in line to spawn it's normally worth dropping a med pack.

    If I have a very good player I will always give them a med if they get below 70 health.
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  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    No it dosent cost res to spawn.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    Respawning costs res only in tournament mode.
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  • Mjr_BeatingsMjr_Beatings Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11283Members
    Ok, sorry I was thinking in clan mode, still I'd rather give a med than listen to people whining at me, chances are it wont dent your resources that much, and it certainly wont swing matches.
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  • G_I_GodlessG_I_Godless Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19050Members
    good point there.... this could get 2 a lot of resource waste <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    i only ask for a medkit when my health is below 30,,,,,,
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  • MonkeygetMonkeyget Join Date: 2002-02-27 Member: 254Members
    Don't ask for medpack when u are parasited neither.
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  • LancedresLancedres Join Date: 2003-09-01 Member: 20458Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BlueNovember+Aug 31 2003, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Aug 31 2003, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> However wouldn't they do more damage attacking the expanding aliens? Aliens expand too fast... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with this, instead of making you team kill themselves, just make them rush the alien hives or hunt a gorge, of course, not leaving the base compleately alone <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Hey thanks!
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  • VermisVermis Join Date: 2003-08-18 Member: 19924Members
    Yeah, in the beginning of the game when res is limited and needed to expand. Suicide is the much more economical solution in 3/4 of the cases. IMO.
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  • RedeyeRedeye Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14819Members
    edited September 2003
    Hey BlueNovember, nice avatar m8, where did you get, or did you make it yourself?
    It would uber cool having the blademaster as an avatar <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Ps. sorry for going off topic <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BeRzErKeRBeRzErKeR Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13691Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--REDEYE+Sep 6 2003, 11:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (REDEYE @ Sep 6 2003, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey BlueNovember, nice avatar m8, where did you get, or did you make it yourself?
    It would uber cool having the blademaster as an avatar <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Ps. sorry for going off topic <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Isn't that a Demon Hunter?

    On-topic, thanks for letting me know about that over 52 health thing. Never thought about it.
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  • RedeyeRedeye Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14819Members
    edited September 2003
    Off topic, I know its the Demon Hunter, but can you get the Blademaster like that?
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  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    yes it is possible... ihave seen people with the blademaster before.
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    you will all die in blizzard hell. mmm comms gimme rambo assistance at start they get a 10 minute lecture. I get muted, cant help and lose because im ooooh so important <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    its not the inefficiency ( as that doesnt kick in till armour 2 i believe,) its about the actual effect 5%+ of your res has in combat at the point where you need it: early game youll probably have insufficient ammo to properly rambo and also the main reason youre dodging skulks is a lack of ammo or a reload at which point you are dead if you are ramboing. A comm trying to assist will have to spend 6 res at the very least which is a complete waste of time.
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  • RedeyeRedeye Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14819Members
    The only time I'll ask for a medpack is if I'm wearing HA, have a jp, welder or some heavy weapons, other than that, its a waste of time and res for the comm.
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  • SuddenFearSuddenFear Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17571Members
    I don't get why people in heavy armour always ask for medpacks. Even if they have full armour, the moment their health falls to around 85hp, the "med pls" spam begins. There's just no need at all. =\
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  • PaperPaper Join Date: 2003-08-12 Member: 19596Members
    I think the best way is to let your comm decide when to give you meds
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    OT:
    Reply to RedEye and Beserker.

    I tried to make one myself, then found a person who has lots already. I am just linking to his site. (I know this is bad netiquite, but GeoShities won't host it, and neither will the forums, nor AvatarHost.com or whatever it was.)
    You can right-click properties on my avatar to see the site. It has the Blade master too I think. The one I use is the Demon Hunter.
    Glad you like it.
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  • RedeyeRedeye Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14819Members
    heh, tnx m8, Im trying some now.
    And sorry for going so off topic.
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    So I see.
    Nice. I like the turquoise bits on mine though.

    Hmm. Now we look like clan members or something. I don't mind.
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Oh right.

    Fam says I shouldn't use such a big avatar. Whoops. Maybe you should change too. I will optimise mine and host it myself...
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  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Look, can anybody recomend an avatar host? I'll make a new topic, but as this one is going this way I thought I'd ask.

    Oh, it must be free.
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  • ZerogreatZerogreat Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10537Members
    I have can host some avatars bcause i have some unused webspace.
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  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    It doesn't cost res to spawn in tourny mode.
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  • BlueTorpeedoBlueTorpeedo Join Date: 2003-03-10 Member: 14359Members
    Personnaly , I think there should be medpacks as items (a la TFC) instead of simply spawned off manually by the COM. You could make Medpacks a Level 1 or 2 weapon (replace pistol or LMG) and they could use it on freinds as a 'rine would a welder. I also think that marines should be able to give ammo to one another like in Dod.
    I feel that this would discourage rambos and give more advantage to teamplay. It would also relieve the COM of all the crap (mostly from rambos) of having to leave other tasks asside while he goes off to heal/arm rambos and the injured. Maybe other COMs may have no trouble with this but it personnally annoys me.

    Whats your opinion?
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  • LoRDxDeMoNLoRDxDeMoN Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14636Members
    only time i'd ask for a medpack is when i carry big guns (shotty, hmg, GL); since the comm already spent 10+ res on me, 2 more shouldn't bother him.

    if i have nothing of value, i never ask for meds/ammo; even when following waypoints, or attacking wols/hives/whatever. besides, if the comm knows his craft, he can tell if his soldiers need that extra 50 health to push through.
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  • LitoLito Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20560Members
    It depends on the situation. I would not give a medpack to someone who just sits in base with red health asknig for one unless i have alot of res, but i would gladly give medpacks to the two marines who are trying to take out some ocs, or holding down that hive. Its not a matter of when to 'ask for it' but when the situation calls for it
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