I Just Don't Get It.
Ukato
Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7204Members
Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7204Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Onos is too cheap. No really, read me.</div> Consider the following:
The Onos costs 100 Res.
What can the marines buy with 100 res?
well, you could give 10 marines shottys... That is overkill on the marine's side, but i doubt you have 10 marines to fend off the Behemoth.
You could build around.. i dunno... 4 or 5 turrets with a tf? That's hardly a roadblock to an Onos.
I don't know, it just seems that maybe the Onos is too much power for one man+100 res. one man+100 res on the marine's side couldn't compete, in ANY way, shape or form.
This doesn't mean that this needs to be FIXED, just that marines need to realize that they need to stick together and work to kill those things.
Actually, I lost my train of thought like three times in this post. Damn ADHD.
The Onos costs 100 Res.
What can the marines buy with 100 res?
well, you could give 10 marines shottys... That is overkill on the marine's side, but i doubt you have 10 marines to fend off the Behemoth.
You could build around.. i dunno... 4 or 5 turrets with a tf? That's hardly a roadblock to an Onos.
I don't know, it just seems that maybe the Onos is too much power for one man+100 res. one man+100 res on the marine's side couldn't compete, in ANY way, shape or form.
This doesn't mean that this needs to be FIXED, just that marines need to realize that they need to stick together and work to kill those things.
Actually, I lost my train of thought like three times in this post. Damn ADHD.
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Even better, pair up with a buddy and have 2 shotgunners. It'll die twice as fast.
The whole teamwork logic when talking about killing Oni is flawed, because you're assuming that the onos is rambo. Aliens can use teamwork too *gasp*.
240 res? That's a couple of JPs with shotties/HMG, a couple of HA with GLs and then some medpack spam on top as icing ... Sounds fair to me.
Uh......
What i see when HA train encounters onos without 2nd hive :
BAM
HA DEVOURED
BAM
BAM
REDEMPT
BAM
BAM
BAM
BAM
Standard 7 marine ha train.4 buckshots hitting the wall because they were a fraction slower than the first 3.Only time i saw onos die to shotgunners were 2 leet clanners that went like this :
BAM BAM
BAM BAM
ONOS DEAD
Thus the 3 shotgun shell mark was not achieved due to the special nature of the circumstances and the fact taht the onos was a newbie who kept trying to devour but couldnt.
With 2 hives it goes like this :
STOMP
HA DEVOURED
HA GORED TO AT LEAST HALF ARMOR
BAM
BAM
BAM
REDEMPT
BAM
BAM
BAM
in all beta builds, flayra has removed redempt devour onos.
which means, its not going to bein the next version.
Hah, but you think those marines are going to be able to advance? No. The problem is... the marines have good defense but against onos there is not much they can do for offense without being owned on the alien's turf. The marine RTs will die off slowly, the alien's strength grows as more evolve to higher lifeforms and more ground is infested, the marines will be consumed. If you're playing the same game you'll know this... I'm talking about when aliens actually use teamwork..
A good regen/cara onos is just as good at devouring HA as a redemption onos btw, but much better when assaulting as a team because of their staying power.
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Personally I think anyone found using 'teamwork' should have their WON ID banned permanently.
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<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><b>TEAMWORK HAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</b></span>
You missed the point. Aliens + teamwork > marines + teamwork... IMO.
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U banned me k thx xzilen
Not only that a decent marine with a shotty can KILL a onos as it only has a small chance to trigger redemption per each 180 damage shot. Not only that if the ono kills the shotgunner another marie can pick it up which mean you dident even lose any res.
You all need to become better players instead of whining about aleins.
In short, I talk from both a marine and an alien PoV. Don't give me that crap about becoming a better player..
One thing I is people complaining about onos, but not getting weapons upgrades. Ya know, with level 3 guns, onos go away. Really fast, too. A single marine with level 3 LMG and pistol _if he has time to empty a clip from each, makes an onos redeem. Was doing it constantly tonight.
When 4 marines with LMGs see 3 onos charging down a corridor at them, and lose just one marine, well, think about it. I hate being onos and finding out the hard way the commander was smart.
Play on beta servers. Watch onos redeem without devouring, or trying to run (slowly) away with a full tummy and getting shot down.
Its also a blast when the fade stands there acid rocketing you, and dies to the L3 LMG fire. Takes em by surprise, they are sooooo used to dealing with L1 weapons.
Oh btw are you sure the onos that dont redempt in time are low pingers with high specs?Onos always redempts at 3 shotgun shell mark....before the 4 shell can hit it,its gone.