Marines Are Winning More And More....

AlcapwnAlcapwn "War is the science of destruction" - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
edited August 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Bullpoopy about aliens being to powerful</div> If you log on to any server when 2.0 came out you would see that aliens were winning 90% of the time...

Now it looks like aliens are winning about 60% of the time and falling....

Marines are winning more and more as they develop new strategys and learn alien strategys as well....

All games have SOME balance issues....name one that doesent.

NS 2.0 is not a TERRIBLY unbalanced game....

<span style='color:white'>Please don't dodge the swear filter.</span>
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  • TorgoTorgo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11626Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All games have SOME balance issues....name one that doesent.

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    ...Pong?
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  • TriPhaseTriPhase Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6110Members, Constellation
    lmao...
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  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Torgo+Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Torgo @ Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All games have SOME balance issues....name one that doesent.

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    ...Pong? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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    Trying to be SERIOUS here....
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  • TorgoTorgo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11626Members
    Fine, be that way. Yes, I agree I see slightly more Marine victories, mainly due to some excellent commanding jobs. But, when that *does* happen, aliens just F4.
    Still, when the aliens win...the victory is either extremely quick and decisive before the game really begins...or it's a dragged out stalemate where you have the marines suckling life off of one nozzle and a nice turret farm and some grenade spam.
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  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
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    There are large balance issues, but marines can still win. The thing is, for marines to win they have to rely more on the incompetence of the aliens then the competence of their commander and teammates, and it shouldn't be that way.

    2.1 looks to remove the balance issues, so it will truly be a match of skill.
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  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 03:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Trying to be SERIOUS here.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    if you want a serious discussion, that deals with matters maturely, try not dodging the swear filter on your title. That said, the marines stand a much better chance in 2.0 NOW than they did in 2.0 a month ago. Aliens can (probably) still pwn, if they feel inclined to do so.

    [edit]and you threadjackers should go get a room. He's talking about something talked about over and over again; but just because he feels there deserves to be a new thread about an old horse, that doesn't mean you should talk about which glue factory gives the better deal, or pong, or whatever it is you do in your spare time[/edit]
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Torgo+Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Torgo @ Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All games have SOME balance issues....name one that doesent.

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    ...Pong? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Noooo, Pong is teh unbalance, left hand paddle always winz!!!1
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  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    ...Anyone that says the aliens are weak, or that the game is totally balanced, obviously hasn't done any of the things I mentioned above. Aliens are soundly beating marines in 9 out of 10 competitive games...
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    Hmm.
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  • AposApos Join Date: 2003-06-14 Member: 17369Members, Constellation
    I hope the game isn't "balanced" by something cheap like making turret spam cheaper (are turret limits in put yet?). I've seen very few alien wins recently. Of course, many of the games I've played have involved 9 v 5 marines v aliens because everyone is clamoring to get on the marine team so they can be on the winning side. That's one thing I really hated about 1.04: the pileups in the marine portal. Aliens is way more fun in 2.x I think "you have 30 seconds to join a team or else it's automatic" should be the DEFAULT setting. If servers really want a party in the ready room every game, they can disable it, but come on: is this really how NS is supposed to be played?
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  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Aug 25 2003, 03:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Aug 25 2003, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Torgo+Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Torgo @ Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All games have SOME balance issues....name one that doesent.

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    ...Pong? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Noooo, Pong is teh unbalance, left hand paddle always winz!!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    its true, teh left paddle ALWAYS gets the ball first! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->



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    I have noticed a rise in the amount of squad using and staying in. That may be the cause of this.
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  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    I must agree with the original poster
    The games I play are starting to get alot more balanced
    <u>M vs A</u>
    40/60 wins
    50/50 wins
    60/40 wins

    2.1 should bring about a new amount of balance (if its done right, which I am still unsure about!)
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  • EighteenTwelveEighteenTwelve Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19366Members
    Are you playing on the 2.01b servers?
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  • KwilKwil Join Date: 2003-07-06 Member: 17963Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 02:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 02:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Torgo+Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Torgo @ Aug 25 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--h20+Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (h20 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All games have SOME balance issues....name one that doesent.

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    ...Pong? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Trying to be SERIOUS here.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, he has a point.
    Any game where the sides have even capabilities from the start (eg. Stratego, Unreal Tournament on symmetrical maps, etc.) have no balance issues.
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