Why Soccer Mums Shouldn't Be Allowed

InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">to watch anime.</div> <a href='http://www.tribnet.com/opinion/story/3732462p-3759193c.html' target='_blank'>They just don't understand the culture...</a>

<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>HURRAY FOR SOCCER MUMS!</span></b>

I'll send here some eromanga... sure she'll appreciate it.
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  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    Silly silly soccer moms.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I think I'm going to shoot someone. I HATE MOMS!
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We have been in contact with the Federal Communications Commission, the ACLU and organizations dealing with violence against children. We have been spreading the word to educators and churches to raise public awareness about this incorrect rating.


    Julie McBride-Wyatt lives in my basement, now. She's not going to be talking to anyone about censoring for a long time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    man.. i <i>wish</i>.
  • Bosnian_CowboyBosnian_Cowboy Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17088Members, Constellation
    And you guys thought soccer moms attacked only conservative views like gun ownership. *tisk* *tisk* Now you will learn your lesson that the soccer moms are an evil and idiotic force that can't be controlled.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Aug 28 2003, 07:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Aug 28 2003, 07:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And you guys thought soccer moms attacked only conservative views like gun ownership. *tisk* *tisk* Now you will learn your lesson that the soccer moms are an evil and idiotic force that can't be controlled. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what the hell?

    anime was like, the first thing soccer moms ever went after.

    if your stupid hormone-charged kid doesn't have a snowflake's chance in a blast furnace to get laid, let him watch the damn thing. it's traumatizing not having any sort of stimulation for your sex drive when you're young like that.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited August 2003
    Uh... they're objecting to it being rated PG and being shown on kid's TV. I haven't seen the anime they refer to, but some of it aint appropriate for littlies. I'm not knocking ecchi, it's just not kids' stuff.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What we saw was nudity below the waist on a teenage girl, kids blowing people's brains out with machine guns, extreme violence and sexual content - all being acted out by adolescent characters.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hey, I've got nothing against that. But:
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why has this show been rated TV-PG?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • RenegadeRenegade Old school Join Date: 2002-03-29 Member: 361Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Aug 27 2003, 11:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Aug 27 2003, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I HATE MOMS! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How can you hate moms? Don't you have one? Or were you raised with two daddies...
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    Soulskorpian, by "nudity below the waist" she means "short skirt" by "blowing peoples brains out" she means "there are guns" gotta know the lingo!
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Renegade+Aug 28 2003, 12:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Aug 28 2003, 12:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Aug 27 2003, 11:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Aug 27 2003, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I HATE MOMS! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How can you hate moms? Don't you have one? Or were you raised with two daddies... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I have one, and I hate her.
  • Bosnian_CowboyBosnian_Cowboy Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17088Members, Constellation
    The anime show Cowboy Bebop has a woman that obviously has breasts hidden beneath her clothes. How can they have that on? Filthy!

    <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Get the satire? Good.</span> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Aug 28 2003, 04:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Aug 28 2003, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Soulskorpian, by "nudity below the waist" she means "short skirt" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was wondering about that..... oh well, I'm dissapointed <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • IcarusIcarus Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15706Members
    edited August 2003
    <i>I should learn to make constructive posts, or In fact posts that actually contain anything other than a smiley before I decide to post again</i>
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    accually, Im a huge fan of the series and i understand what she's saying


    the Nudity thing, one episode, number 3 to be precise, there is a 2 second shot of a girl's butt, sitting down no less.

    the blowing peoples brains out thing? 4th episode, Hakaru has a massive shootout with the suits, Eariler in the episode, they're playing Airsoft. This ignorate fool thinks that she's being a whistle blower on smut, well, she's not. More than likeley she's some Mormon who thinks anything that shows more than an inch of skin at the ankle is indecent and that any position other than Missionary is wrong! The PG in TV-PG means "PARENTAL GUIDENCE", so guide your damned kid! Tell him a walking Seige Turret isnt going to come out of the bump on his head he received from the 2nd grader who beat him with his own Spongebob lunchbox on his way to High school, Yes, Women has butts, Killing people's wrong... Some people shouldnt be allowed to breed...
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    Is she referring to Cartoon Network found on Sky ?
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mr. Headcrab+Aug 28 2003, 08:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Headcrab @ Aug 28 2003, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> accually, Im a huge fan of the series and i understand what she's saying


    the Nudity thing, one episode, number 3 to be precise, there is a 2 second shot of a girl's butt, sitting down no less.

    the blowing peoples brains out thing? 4th episode, Hakaru has a massive shootout with the suits, Eariler in the episode, they're playing Airsoft. This ignorate fool thinks that she's being a whistle blower on smut, well, she's not. More than likeley she's some Mormon who thinks anything that shows more than an inch of skin at the ankle is indecent and that any position other than Missionary is wrong! The PG in TV-PG means "PARENTAL GUIDENCE", so guide your damned kid! Tell him a walking Seige Turret isnt going to come out of the bump on his head he received from the 2nd grader who beat him with his own Spongebob lunchbox on his way to High school, Yes, Women has butts, Killing people's wrong... Some people shouldnt be allowed to breed... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is the problem, it only takes a small group of morons who are trying to uphold the 'moral fibre of their children' to spoil it for the rest of it. It's on during <b>ADULT</b> Swim.

    Put it this way. I can walk into a video store and higher whatever video I want and show it to a child. <b>COMMON F***ING SENSE </b>dictates I wouldn't show a porn video to a 10 year old. If your so concerned about what your kids are watching, maybe supervise them and don't ruin it for the rest of us >_<

    Bet these are the same kind of idiots who sue McDonalds for spilling Hot Coffee on themselves claiming it was too hot. HOT COFFEE. WTH WERE YOU EXPECTING.

    On top of that the legal system is a f***ing joke for allowing these idiots actually win. "Weee I broke into your house and broke my leg. 10 million dollars plz"

    God I hate society. S*** happens, get over it.

    And people wonder why I'm so socially introverted...

    *shakes fist at Soccer mums, the Justice System and society*
  • Josiah_BartletJosiah_Bartlet Join Date: 2002-07-04 Member: 880Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    She was merely saying that it shouldn't be TV-PG. Not that Anime is wrong/evil/bad.

    Why yes, it is on during "Adult Swim" but it is still rates TV-PG.

    The television rating systems are there to help viewers, why yes it is easy to say PG= Parental Guidance so the parents should watch what their kids are watching. In the real world it is hard for a parent to watch exactly what their child is watching all the time - hence such rating systems. If that is people's response then surely everything should be rated TV-PG and then you would end up with no guidance.

    I don't know many parents who sit down and watch every single thing their child watches on television, they have more important things to do like work and house work and other such nonsense like that.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Let me say that we are not extremists. We don't try to hide our kids from the real world, nor do we chase down every bad thing in life and try to abolish it or censor it. What we are saying is that this particular show is vulgar and dangerous and could possibly incite violence. We are outraged that it has been rated TV-PG to be openly viewed by kids on, of all places, The Cartoon Network.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I mean thats a fair point to take. I know some if you will not think that it is vuglar or dangerous in the least but these people obviously do, it is obvioulsy aimed at adults and so should have an adult television rating.

    She is not trying to get the show shut down, she is not trying to get Cartoon Network shut down, she just wants the television ratings put to proper use.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We have been in contact with the Federal Communications Commission, the ACLU and organizations dealing with violence against children. We have been spreading the word to educators and churches to raise public awareness about this incorrect rating.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Note that she doesn't say "We have been spreading the word to educators and churches to raise public awareness about this disgrace to humanity. Anime is surely the tool of the devil and it must be stopped!!!!!!"

    Just because she has taken a different view to you, on something that you obviously like, does not mean that she is a stupid soccer mum.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Oh well. I don't live in America, my mum's not a nazi, and nobody here takes the government seriously. Go Australia!
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Josiah Bartlet+Aug 28 2003, 02:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Josiah Bartlet @ Aug 28 2003, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->She is not trying to get the show shut down, she is not trying to get Cartoon Network shut down, she just wants the television ratings put to proper use.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which is only fair. A PG-rating for a piece that isn't really PG is an error. Maybe contacting Cartoon Network about it first would have been a better course of action though.

    Edit: My bad, didn't read thoroughly enough obviously. She's still right though.
  • Josiah_BartletJosiah_Bartlet Join Date: 2002-07-04 Member: 880Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Aug 28 2003, 01:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Aug 28 2003, 01:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Josiah Bartlet+Aug 28 2003, 02:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Josiah Bartlet @ Aug 28 2003, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->She is not trying to get the show shut down, she is not trying to get Cartoon Network shut down, she just wants the television ratings put to proper use.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which is only fair. A PG-rating for a piece that isn't really PG is an error. Maybe contacting Cartoon Network about it first would have been a better course of action though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When we tried to contact The Cartoon Network, we found that it does not accept phone comments from viewers. We went to its Web site, cartooncomments@ turner.com, and did not find a place to contact anyone at the network. We will, however, mail it a copy of this letter.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Seems like she did the best she could. All she is trying to do is let other people know that the rating is wrong so that other parents can check out the show and see if it is suitable or not.
  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    What the hec is she doing letter here kid watch shows at midnight anyway?
    I had a bedtime of 7:00 until I was 7.....
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Naturally, this comes from a woman in Washington state, where they thought it was perfectly acceptable to try and ban video game sales, until it was tossed out by the federal courts. If you are from the pacific northwest, punch yourself in the face for me, k? Thanks.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    I tried watching FLCL. The music was awesome. The show was.. confusing.
    That said, I honestly think a "not appropriate for 16 and under" would have been better. Too bad mom lets her 10 year old son watch TV at midnight with a TV-PG13-and-up-is-blocked. The only thing he CAN watch is CTN. And the weather channel. Wait, that's inappropriate, too. People die in bad storms, y'know. Can't let kids learn that. /sarcasm.

    She is concerned, and rightly so. A TV-PG rating means that, for parents who choose to prevent their children from watching smut as opposed to teaching them the difference, or actively taking part of raising their child, means that CTN could play that during the afternoon and it would get past her filters. That's a bad thing, I see where she's coming from. I think PG13 and PG are stupid. It's either PG, or it's not, and I think all things are PG (even cartoons), but that's a different story (along the lines of "don't use the TV as a babysitter")
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    so, anyway, is the show any good? =P I'm usually playing NS at midnight so I always miss it... I catch futurama and family guy tho :>
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We feel safe as parents of young teens to allow them to watch television unsupervised even at a late hour because we trust in proper TV ratings and have our family television set with a parental code for anything PG-13 or above. It doesn't do any good for The Cartoon Network to display a parental warning prior to its late-night programming because parental codes don't lock out a show based on that type of warning. What works is to rate a show correctly in the first place.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is exactely the kind of attitude that gets me raging whenever I hear parents pack it out: They do not feel it necessary to have a look at their childrens consumed media, and instead move that <i>responsibility</i> to some nebulous instance that dishes out ratings after more or less subjective criteria. It's <i>their</i> children. According to any definition of parentship, <i>they</i> are the only ones who're allowed to make judgements about the kinds of media consumed by their children. If they gave that away, they failed an essential part of parentship.
    And sorry, but TVs just don't belong into a childs room.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->We are outraged that it has been rated TV-PG to be openly viewed by kids on, of all places, The Cartoon Network.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The name is '<b>Cartoon</b> Network'. Not, I repeat, <i>not</i> 'Kids Network'. Cartoons aren't a pure childrens affair, they never were. If they went around assuming that, sorry, but they were wrong.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    Nem: As I said, they're soccer mums. Totally beyond comprehension. They won't be content until they ruin it for the rest of us.
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Had this program been on a channel other than The Cartoon Network and had it been rated "R," we would not have been so alarmed. This program is rated TV-PG. What we saw was nudity below the waist on a teenage girl, kids blowing people's brains out with machine guns, extreme violence and sexual content - all being acted out by adolescent characters. Why has this show been rated TV-PG?

    When we talked to our son and told him he could never watch that show again, he told me to "suck it", pulled out a gun and blew my husbands brains out.  All because he watched this show!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    LOL
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    Re: The coffee lawsuit - apparently it WAS too warm, it was somewhat close to boiling, IIRC.

    And as for "go Australia"..... didn't they ban GTA, and now their childcare centres have banned superheroes?



    On topic, I do love the idea of people letting their kids watch Cartoon Network at midnight...... or CNX, for that matter, lol.


    You have to love these loonies though - I mean how else would I have found out about this obviously interesting show?

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LigerLiger Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18026Members
    I rather think the fact that they said "young teens", which to me means around 11 to 13, now... the rating system, PG-13 means that they should probably not let kids under thirteen watch, which if they're young teens, the point is moot very soon.

    And rating systems are very bogus anyway... as with games, TV can get away with showing pretty much anything but pubes, nipples (female only), and intercorse, and it won't achive an AO/NC-17 rating.

    And cartoons themselves are far too violent, and ALOT of the old ones have hidden pop.culture items that older folks back then would only have been able to get...

    Hell, even all the old grimm's fairy tales were **** up in the head, until they were Disney-ized for our modern, whimpy culture...
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    If anyone has seen the unedited version of Fooly Cooly, how in the hell would they think they should let there 7 year old watch it? I mean use some common sense and take at least 10 minutes out of your life to find out what something is before you plop your kid down in front of the TV and forget about them.
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