What Drives People To Harrass Others?
Hunty
Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19244Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Strange isnt it.</div> So you dont like a person.You may even hate that person.
But would you go to the extent of harrasing that person?E.G.Going round telling everyone how "Bad' this person is,making sarcastic remarks,etc.
Especially over the internet?Would you go to the extent of finding what forums this person uses,go onto them,and try to convince everyone of how "bad" this person is?Would you break laws to try and **** this person off?Would you enter the same game server as this person,to tell everyone how "bad" this person is?Would you use fake nicks to try and **** him off?Would you organize a hate club and have a forum specially for talking about what they hate for this person?Would you sign up for the same instant messager this person uses and repeatedly message him to **** him off,and signing up for new accounts whenever you get blocked?
Why?
If you see your friend being harrased,would you do anything?What if it was a stranger?Or would you just keep quiet,passively supporting the harrasser,like what everyone seems to do nowadays,instead of speaking up?
My view?If i dont like a person thats fine.I wont want to talk to that person.I wont want to socialise with that person.That person might not like me either.We will just go our seperate ways.If we meet,we will just pretend we arent there and carry on.One time,there was this guy i really hated.I cant remember why.Most probably,he said something i didnt like and so we went back and forth a bit.But in the end it worked out.We didnt carry on going at each other.If we did,we wouldnt be the friends we were today.
Whats your view?
But would you go to the extent of harrasing that person?E.G.Going round telling everyone how "Bad' this person is,making sarcastic remarks,etc.
Especially over the internet?Would you go to the extent of finding what forums this person uses,go onto them,and try to convince everyone of how "bad" this person is?Would you break laws to try and **** this person off?Would you enter the same game server as this person,to tell everyone how "bad" this person is?Would you use fake nicks to try and **** him off?Would you organize a hate club and have a forum specially for talking about what they hate for this person?Would you sign up for the same instant messager this person uses and repeatedly message him to **** him off,and signing up for new accounts whenever you get blocked?
Why?
If you see your friend being harrased,would you do anything?What if it was a stranger?Or would you just keep quiet,passively supporting the harrasser,like what everyone seems to do nowadays,instead of speaking up?
My view?If i dont like a person thats fine.I wont want to talk to that person.I wont want to socialise with that person.That person might not like me either.We will just go our seperate ways.If we meet,we will just pretend we arent there and carry on.One time,there was this guy i really hated.I cant remember why.Most probably,he said something i didnt like and so we went back and forth a bit.But in the end it worked out.We didnt carry on going at each other.If we did,we wouldnt be the friends we were today.
Whats your view?
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Moving on to the topic. I'm a very flexible person. I accept people as they are, so you'll have to <i>really</i> **** me off, so that I would start hating you. And even when I do start hating somebody, I usually settle down in a week or so.
As for starting harrasing people that you don't like, I don't see, why should one do that. Some people just aren't happy with their every day normal lives and just have to have some arguing or fighting going around. If you ask me, these types of people should be closed up in a large room and let their agresivness out on each other, if they like it so much.
Hmm, I'd say a lot of the hostility that goes on occurs because people can attack or flame someone over the net without fear of retribution. It might be a minor occurance but someone who wants to press the issue can do so with a minimum of fuss. Hence these flare-ups occur.
What drives it? I'd say our own natures play a part, we can be a very aggressive species (and frequently are). Also constraints of society: our emotions can become cramped by the societies we inhabit, to the extent that some of us "blow off steam" online, taking frustrations in our actual lives out on virtual opponants. Not excusable but probably is a cause.
As for me I take the flaming and lack of allies in my stride. It's a long and lonely life to be an atheist left-wing forum poster <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
"If you hate someone, you're already dedicating too much time to them."
Hating is not worth your time like esuna said and should you hate, it will bite you in the back. But its only human to hate someone for something at some point in your life...
Well, thats what I think..
However, I think that people being harrassed should look out for each other. Yesterday at student registration for my school, my friend and I were waiting outside for the doors to open, so we could get inside and register, some kids were purposely pushing each other in to my friend, which in turn led him to trip and fall in to a girl standing in front of him. She got really angry at my friend, but he explained what was going on so she went to confront the other kids. While she was arguing with them, I casually slid myself between my friend and the kids pushing each other since I'm sturdy. Sure enough, they went at it again, and instead of knocking my friend over, they bumped in to me.
This is the kind of thing you should do for people who are being harrassed. Look out for them. There will always be people deriving pleasure out of hurting others, so the only way to overcome it is for people to look out for each other. However, don't lower yourself to their level. Don't insult them or treat them like they're below you. (Even if they are.)
However, I think that people being harrassed should look out for each other. Yesterday at student registration for my school, my friend and I were waiting outside for the doors to open, so we could get inside and register, some kids were purposely pushing each other in to my friend, which in turn led him to trip and fall in to a girl standing in front of him. She got really angry at my friend, but he explained what was going on so she went to confront the other kids. While she was arguing with them, I casually slid myself between my friend and the kids pushing each other since I'm sturdy. Sure enough, they went at it again, and instead of knocking my friend over, they bumped in to me.
This is the kind of thing you should do for people who are being harrassed. Look out for them. There will always be people deriving pleasure out of hurting others, so the only way to overcome it is for people to look out for each other. However, don't lower yourself to their level. Don't insult them or treat them like they're below you. (Even if they are.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Urgh, schoolkids are the lose. Back in school myself and a good friend were out, i went into a shop to buy a drink and when i came out my friend was surrounded by about 5 of the "tough" girls at our school, they were pushing her (My friend.) around between them and the wall, i stepped in shouting "What the f**k are you doing!" and so on, they backed off, myself and my friend walked away.
For about a year or two after that i was constantly called a "Woman beater" because i apparently hit them.
I really can't stand for hate like this, they did this because we were "different". But hell, what is "different" anyway?
Herd mentality is human nature. Humans love to be comfortable. And something that is different makes them uncomfortable. So they try to destroy it or change it. When you leave school those sorta problems fade (at least for the average white male in Australia they do).
As for internet hate - you must remember a lot of gamers/hardcore net users are on the social "outer fringe" so to speak. Often they themselves are bullied and picked on in the street. That is bully territory. But on the internet, this is "the nerds" territory, and his anonymity gives these social rejects a chance to do the things to other people that bullies do to them.
Take my case for example. Last night I had just played an excellent game of 2.01d. I go to OPTUS #4 I believe. I get in (bout four ppl playing) and say "has anyone here played 2.01d, its freakin awesome". And some !Ryhki I believe his name was goes "SUYF". I was really taken aback. Then I remembered he is probably some socially rejected tubby kid whose only recourse to bullying is to take his angst out on people on the internet.
They're SunnyD chugging teenangsters.
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I used to get picked on a lot, then I just stopped paying attention to people I didn't like, and kept quiet when I wasn't needed to speak, and people left me alone. Except for a few people to randomly tug on my hair (It's long, they can't seem to accept that it's long.) and tell me to cut it. Doesn't bug me, though.