Trouble Listening To A Cd While Playing

JohnnySmash · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">help?</div> Okay this happened with CS and considering how it happened it'll probably happen with NS too.

Playing the CD in Windows Media Player, I'd be listening to the 2nd track but when I join a game it'd start playing the first *at the same time*. When I "esc" the 1st track would stop, then start when I resume. Weird.

With Musicmatch Jukebox whenever I join or resume a game it goes to the next track, or it won't go but will pause the track while I'm "esc"ed out of the game.

So can anyone recommend a program that will just play the tracks and won't let any other programs interfere with it?

Thanx! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

-JohnnySmash

Sirus · August 2003

Have you tried WinAmp ?

JohnnySmash · August 2003

No. I'll go try it.

-JohnnySmash

holydevil · August 2003

that would be the built-in HL cd player, disable it in the audio options(i believe, i know its HL's player tho)

Rat · August 2003

if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming?

Sarisel · August 2003

It does, unless you have it playing really really softly in the background.

Teioh · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Hell no, I have the game volume really low and my music blasting away yet I always do good and generally get first <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Salaman · August 2003

Paying attention to sound is like 10x more important here than in CS. In CS you pretty much know the enemy will be coming across the bridge, through the water, or past the doors. In NS you never know where an alien could hide, and it's an advantage if you can hear his claws clacking about to find where he is, or to be able to hear the tread of marines coming as an alien. A large number of people tend to use voicecomm to communicate information and orders, and missing out on those will lead you to becoming a poor team player as well.

Birdy · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Most servers run Cheating death now... so watch it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

ZERG · August 2003

Yeah, the built-in HL cd player thing. It's used for HL single player so it plays the groovy techno or whatever. It just plays the first track so any cd u got in there with the option on it just plays the first track over and over.

EDIT: FOr winamp, I think you need to grab the HL-Amp plug-in.

Frikk · August 2003

Or you could just use the built in MP3 player in NS. Just bind a key to "nexttrack" and drop all of the mp3's you want in the music directory in ns. [nexttrack may not be right. I don't have my config accessible to me right now.]

I listen to music when playing in pubs. You just gotta make sure it doesn't have too much bass or you can't hear people coming. It does hurt your playing some, but it's a bit more fun, for me at least.

Warfare · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
It's awsome when you're the last of your squad, then suddenly the DooM theme starts...

I would suggest converting your CD to MP3, place them in NS\music and activate the music by cl_musicenable 1 (think that's it, if not, Advanced Configs or something).

I'd suggest volume 90, 100 or 120. (Maybe 80 even).
I think the console command is cl_musicvolume "90".

If the music stops, which it usually does when you die, type "nexttrack" in console.

Rat · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Aug 29 2003, 04:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Most servers run Cheating death now... so watch it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
cheating death doesn't catch cheaters, it just alters the way the engine is rendered and misreports data to dll injection programs. it's not csguard or hlguard, and wont ban you because it's not scanning for files.

the current version of ogc lite that i found is said to be cd proof, but haven't checked it as i dont use it personally

JohnnySmash · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Actually no. It's techno and it's pretty loud but I can still hear alien footsteps and everything. Also it motivates me.

Come to think of it, the games in which I've been playing with music playing I've been doing VERY well in.

WinAmp didn't work btw. I joined a server and my computer restarted. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

I'll try some of the other suggestions though.

-JohnnySmash

JohnnySmash · August 2003

Aaaaaaaaaarggggghh!!!

Nobody knows how to do this? I don't want to have to set up the files in HL and have to bind a key to nexttrack. I can't believe there isn't a music program that just plays the music without interferance!

-JohnnySmash

Teflon · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rage against the Pepsi machine @ Aug 29 2003, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Paying attention to sound is like 10x more important here than in CS. In CS you pretty much know the enemy will be coming across the bridge, through the water, or past the doors. In NS you never know where an alien could hide, and it's an advantage if you can hear his claws clacking about to find where he is, or to be able to hear the tread of marines coming as an alien. A large number of people tend to use voicecomm to communicate information and orders, and missing out on those will lead you to becoming a poor team player as well.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I have my gamma and brightness set really low, so maps are dark and moody. When I attack a marine, 95% of the time I'll have no idea where he is. I have to rely on sound, but most importantly, my brain. I keep track of the marine, what he might do, how he's moving, and what gun he has. I'll mentally keep track of the amount of ammo he has left to choose when I need to attack during weapon changing / reloading sequences.

I'm getting quite good at it too. It makes NS equally a mental exercise as it is a skill exercise.

I suggest other people try it. It's sick how you hone yourself so that you don't NEED scent of fear, you just keep a mental map of every marine's position.

Insanity_Gizmo · August 2003

I just use an external portable CD player if I want to listen to anything, since running any music seems to trip up my computer. For 60 bucks, I got a portable CD player that plays Audio and Mp3 (That's 300 songs on a CD!) CDs and has a radio from Costco.

But if you don't want to make an investment, I think the commands are cd loop (track number) and cd stop.

JohnnySmash · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Aug 30 2003, 01:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rage against the Pepsi machine @ Aug 29 2003, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Paying attention to sound is like 10x more important here than in CS. In CS you pretty much know the enemy will be coming across the bridge, through the water, or past the doors. In NS you never know where an alien could hide, and it's an advantage if you can hear his claws clacking about to find where he is, or to be able to hear the tread of marines coming as an alien. A large number of people tend to use voicecomm to communicate information and orders, and missing out on those will lead you to becoming a poor team player as well. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I have my gamma and brightness set really low, so maps are dark and moody. When I attack a marine, 95% of the time I'll have no idea where he is. I have to rely on sound, but most importantly, my brain. I keep track of the marine, what he might do, how he's moving, and what gun he has. I'll mentally keep track of the amount of ammo he has left to choose when I need to attack during weapon changing / reloading sequences.

I'm getting quite good at it too. It makes NS equally a mental exercise as it is a skill exercise.

I suggest other people try it. It's sick how you hone yourself so that you don't NEED scent of fear, you just keep a mental map of every marine's position.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
omg sry but u r a *** wannabe special person

-JohnnySmash

Talesin · August 2003

Smash, I just use WinAMP (get v2.x, NOT v3.x! The latter is virtually just a skin for Windows Media Player, and is junk) with the HLAmp plugin. It's what I do, and lets me bind commands for previous track, play, stop, next track, volume up and down, and emergency-mute if I come into a situation where I NEED to hear those footsteps.

Oh, and Rat. Look into alternates for your music control needs... one of the next things to be dealt with is getting VAC integration finalized in the DLL.

Ovaltine · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Birdy @ Aug 29 2003, 04:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rat @ Aug 29 2003, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you want good cd/mp3 playback ability, pm me and i'll send you a link to OGC Lite which <b>is not a cheat</b> and just has things like winamp control and snake and other fun things. Since NS isn't a VAC mod yet, you wont get banned from servers for it. Once again, it is <b>not</b> OGC the cheat, but coded off the concept to give you fun goodies to divert you from playing NS.

However, the other side of me says, why would you listen to music? doesn't it hamper your gaming? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Most servers run Cheating death now... so watch it <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
cheating death doesn't catch cheaters, it just alters the way the engine is rendered and misreports data to dll injection programs. it's not csguard or hlguard, and wont ban you because it's not scanning for files.

the current version of ogc lite that i found is said to be cd proof, but haven't checked it as i dont use it personally  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
To expand on what talesin said: ogc lite is still a client hook, and vac will still see it as a cheat; and will ban your wonid if it sees the hook.

Trouble Listening To A Cd While Playing

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